OW weekend day 1 (long)

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jstuart1

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I can't say enough about the patience of our instructors. There were only 3 ladies there for cert. Once in my class and another lady who was in a previous clas. On our first dive, we really STUNK!! The lady from the previous class had problems and did'nt make it to the platform with us. The other lady and I made it to the platform line no problem. The problem began when we were trying to descend the line. We were both so scared we weren't able to descend. My legs were tucked up behind me and I'm laid out horrizontal. Just couldn't figure out how to get vertical and go down. It was wierd. I didn't feel scared and wanted to go down but my body had other ideas! After a short rest break we both finally made it to the platform. Did a couple of skills with no problems then we got to swim around a while which really helped us relax.

Second dive we did a swimming ascent which was much easier than going straight down. I sure am glad the instructors knew where they were going. Because by this time vis was 10ft or less. We did the oral inflation of BC but this time I couldn't stay on the bottom. Instructor had a spare weight pouch and put it in for me. This helped some. Made it through full flood and clear no problem.

Now for the torture test. Take mask off. I have waist length thick hair that I pull on top of my head and I keep the mask rather tight I think. Ok so I struggle to get the strap loose. Took a breath from reg. Flood mask and remove from face. Ok I am thinking I can breath like this. Wrong! Somehow I end up with water in my mouth. It's not up my nose. I try blowing out reg and take a breath. I get a little but more water too. Also I am starting to float a bit again and snce my eyes are not open and I can't see it doesn't help one bit. I have my hand on my nose and am trying to regain faith in the reg. Why I never thought to push it in farther or push the purge button I don't know. I felt someone grab my bc to hold me down and this helped me relax a bit because I really wanted to stay down and recover. Finally the brilliant idea hits me to at least quit holding my mask and get it back on my face. Still should have pushed the reg back in a bit so it would quit leaking but I am still getting air just not enough to really help me relax. Rip mask back over head and start clearing it. Next thing I know I feel a tap on my mask and instinctively open my eyes. Guess what! I can see! After a couple of breaths an caughing still I give the up signal. I really want to go up and catch my breath. Instructor says ok and we ascend slowly to the top. Ok I have managed to push reg back in and am starting to relax and then we are at the surface. I still don't realize that I got the mask back on and cleared. Instructor is great and tells me that I did it and kept my cool when having problems. (It sure didn't feel like cool to me!) I think the only thing I did right was not bolt for the surface.

Instructor really must be psychic though because just at the instant the though occured to me that this is it, I'm not comming back and doing this anymore he very calmly said lets go back down to get my buddy. We did with no problems and back on the platform we did our CESA. Wen't back down to get the other lady and then swam back to shore. I am totally exhausted but the thought of not doing this anymore is gone now. I am still fighting the fear bug of what would happen if I were on a real dive and my buddy wasn't there to have helped hold me down so I could recover. Hopefully once I get more practice in a removing the mask and get better buyancy control it won't be so much of an issue.

The biggest problem I had with the mask removal skill I think was the fact that I got water in my mouth and lost faith in the reg. Got to remember to push reg back in a bit if I get water in my mouth. I also have a new mask strap. This is the one with the releases right behind your head. I didn't put it on for open water because I didn't want to change anything from the CW. I can't say enough about the paitience of the instructors and the encouraging words from them for us. I am sure we will go down as the worst class ever. But hey we have to look on the bright side. My class mate and I stuck it out, conquered our fear, made it through some skills and will head back this morning to do it all over again!
 
Congratulations on making it through the first day.
However, it should be clear to you that you have not achieved 'mastery' of removing and replacing the mask underwater, and just barely got through. I don't know if your instructor passed you for this skill, but even if he did, you should practice, practice, practice this until it's no big deal at all to you. Also practice breathing underwater with no mask until it becomes second nature. Practice in the pool, and once you get good at it, try it in open water with a trusty buddy.

This is not something that you 'do once for the test' and never do again. It is a critical part of being a safe and competent diver.
 
I agree with you. Yes I definitly need practice doing this and will be practicing without a doubt. I want to be comfortable doing this skill.
 
:06: I'm wondering why your buddy didn't surface with you?

All of the skills taught in a suba class require a fair amount of practice to master. Buddy awareness and buddy skills are what provides safety through redundancy in recreational diving. Developing and practicing good buddy skills should be the focus of your first several dives. This includes not only staying together and in communication with each other but also the air sharing skills you were taught. Taking a hint from the DIR folks its something that should be practiced at the beginning of your dive.
 
Typica; but what a total nightmare of a class.

You really need to be very comfortable with skills like mask removal and replacement, ascents and descents and staying with your buddy before ever going to OW.
 
jbd, in reply to "I'm wondering why your buddy didn't surface with you?", My buddy stayed down with the other instructor, her husband and another lady helping out. My instructor budied my to the surface and when we went back down we did the CESA one at a time with the instructor til we were both up. The other instructor with with the other student.

As for staying with our buddy, the lady and I were not budied together. Each of us was budied with the instructor and we did stay with our buddy. Ascents, descents and staying with our buddy was fine. Though admittedly getting down the line that first time was difficult. There is a big difference between a 7' pool and 20ft of water. Today was much better than the first day.

I will be practicing removing the mask and replacing it until I can do it no sweat. Understand that I know full well I need to practice and get comfortable with this skill and I am in no way ready to go off on a charter or deep dive and have no intention of doing so until I master this and get more time in.
 
What I really would like to know is, since my reg seems to keep comming loose from my mouth, is the mouth piece to small or am I doing something wrong? Even just swimming around or turning my head, I have to push it back in.
 
jstuart1:
jbd, in reply to "I'm wondering why your buddy didn't surface with you?", My buddy stayed down with the other instructor, her husband and another lady helping out. My instructor budied my to the surface and when we went back down we did the CESA one at a time with the instructor til we were both up. The other instructor with with the other student.

As for staying with our buddy, the lady and I were not budied together. Each of us was budied with the instructor and we did stay with our buddy. Ascents, descents and staying with our buddy was fine. Though admittedly getting down the line that first time was difficult. There is a big difference between a 7' pool and 20ft of water. Today was much better than the first day.

I will be practicing removing the mask and replacing it until I can do it no sweat. Understand that I know full well I need to practice and get comfortable with this skill and I am in no way ready to go off on a charter or deep dive and have no intention of doing so until I master this and get more time in.
The actual buddy pairings weren't clear in the first post. Glad to hear there was another instructor or DM. I think your comment about the fear bug about what if this had been a real dive and my buddy hadn't been there to help me.... is something that more divers need to think about. Bottom line when we are under water is, it is our life or well being on the line. The solution to that is excellent individual skills for both prevention and resolution of problems. The best prevention and resolution of problems lies in having divers with excellent buddy skills during pre-dive, dive and post dive activities. Include these skills in your future practice. This will help you fight off that fear bug.

BTW I hope all went well today and that you had fun.

Also I think you might be right about the mouth piece being a little small. Put that on your list of things to check when you buy or rent your regulators in the future. You should be able to find one eventually that fits you in a way that is comfortable.

jbd
 
Thanks jbd,
Yes I did have alot of fun yesterday. We did swimming descents which are much easier than going straight down the line. The first time we did the swimming descent on saturday I couldn't figure out how to get down. Yesterday I was much better at it. I have my own gear already so I think I need to check into getting a different mouthpiece for my reg. Mine is the original one that comes on the MR12 Axis.

I look forward to practicing all of the skills and diving. We did a really neat exploration dive where we saw the pipes they tried to use to drain blue lagoon and one of the boats sunk under there. Going from 16 lb to 18 lb helped me stay put on the bottom which made skills much easier.

Thanks
Judy
 
jstuart1:
Thanks jbd,
Yes I did have alot of fun yesterday..... I have my own gear already so I think I need to check into getting a different mouthpiece for my reg. Mine is the original one that comes on the MR12 Axis.

Glad to hear you had more fun on the second day. Just with the extra few dives you went from thinking I'm done with this(after your problematic dive) to having fun. Just think how much better it will get with say 20 more dives. Definitely look into getting a different mouth piece.

jstuart1:
I look forward to practicing all of the skills and diving. We did a really neat exploration dive where we saw the pipes they tried to use to drain blue lagoon and one of the boats sunk under there.

Once you are certified your dives will be much more like the exploration dive(certainly more fun than worrying about passing a skills evaluation ;) ) When you go diving work some skills practice into your planning i.e talk to your buddy about stopping along the way and doing one or two of the skills. Maybe mid dive do a mask full flood maybe at the end of the dive do an air sharing excercise while stationary. Build on these skills in small steps as you gain proficiency. Take some time to really focus on hovering motionless in a horizontal position for several minutes. When you nail this you will find that you are very relaxed and comfortable.
jstuart1}Going from 16 lb to 18 lb helped me stay put on the bottom which made skills much easier.[/QUOTE:
With practice and experience you will probably see the 18 lbs go down to 14 lbs or maybe even 12 lbs.
 

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