Outraged !!!

[Big-t-2538]

NASCAR is 100,000 people standing next to a fence watching a bunch of hillbillies driving around in a circle. lol

Correction....200,000....and if you've never been, don't knock 'till you've tried it.

 

[CBulla]

Cautions and cleaning up after them is fine....if it takes 8 laps, fine, but those 8 laps shouldn't count towards the race total.

Exactly, thats what my underlying thought was, it just didnt make it to writing.

The soft walls are coming. It is one of those time/money/proving it works things.

 

[ScubaTexan]

I thought about this the other day (gasp), and came up with this idea....

1st = 20 points; 2nd = 18; 3rd = 16; 4th = 14; 5th = 12; 6th = 10; 7th = 9; 8th = 8; 9th = 7; 10th = 6; 11th = 5; 12th = 4; 13th = 3; 14th = 2; 15th = 1

Then use laps led and poles captured as tie-breakers.

Just my tuppence worth...

 

[Big-t-2538]

The soft walls are coming. It is one of those time/money/proving it works things.

They've been using that BS excuse for at least 3 years...yet they can retro Daytona's Lighting, and re-vamp the layout of other tracks??? It's just not a decision that is going to make any money....they have the money, but don't want to spend it b/c they think it's going to cost "too much"...BS

 

[Big-t-2538]

1st = 20 points; 2nd = 18; 3rd = 16; 4th = 14; 5th = 12; 6th = 10; 7th = 9; 8th = 8; 9th = 7; 10th = 6; 11th = 5; 12th = 4; 13th = 3; 14th = 2; 15th = 1

The problem is, that's just not a deep enough spread...or a large enough gap to enocourage winning....not to mention at tracks like Talladega & Daytona you can finish half a second behind the leader, but finish in 23rd position.

I think something like

210, 190, 172, 156, 142, 130, 120, 112, 106, (10th pos.) 101, 96, 91, 86, 81, 78, 75, 72, 69, 66, (20th pos.) 63, 60, 57, 54, 51, 48, 45, 42, 39, 36, (30th pos.) 33, 30, 27, 24, 21, 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, (40th pos.) 3, 2, 1

Would be ideal...although it wouldn't eliminate someone trying to fix their car when there's a 15 car pile-up just to get back out on the track for 10 more laps and 14 positions. I think if they invoked "If you can't get up to a minimum speed for a lap, that lap does not count towards your race total"

 

[cornfed]

How can you cheat someone out of the top 10 (which is a huge honor BTW) by telling the driver in 11th place behind the driver in 10th by 5 points after 26 races..."sorry...your chances are over, but the season isn't...good luck". The 6 to 10 spots are usually a lot tighter than the 1 to 5 spots at the end of the season...there's also the honor of being at the head table at the awards banquet in Nov/Dec and having the opportunity to speak. Not to mention the difference in guaranteed pay for 11th and 10th which is now 250K and 1 million respectively. Drivers fight for those spots all year long...now you've gone and cut 1/3rd of that excitement away...IMO that's the biggest problem they've created.

I don't understand NASCAR at all but this seems very similar to changes made in baseball a few years ago. They added a wildcard and divisional playoffs because they thought it would add more excitement. In the end, all they succeeded in doing was take away some of the excitement.

The people in charge really need to be fans first and businessmen second.

 

[Big-t-2538]

I don't understand NASCAR at all but this seems very similar to changes made in baseball a few years ago. They added a wildcard and divisional playoffs because they thought it would add more excitement. In the end, all they succeeded in doing was take away some of the excitement.

The people in charge really need to be fans first and businessmen second.

Well, if they wouldn't be holding so hard onto the whole "nothing has changed other than the points...this is not a playoff system" line of BS they keep spewing, I'd be a little less pissed.

Just come out and say you're trying to sell air time for the last 10 races of the season so the new sponsor is getting more and more people to see that they have a "new series" and a "new promotor"

 

[cornfed]

Well, if they wouldn't be holding so hard onto the whole "nothing has changed other than the points...this is not a playoff system" line of BS they keep spewing, I'd be a little less pissed.

Yeah, adjusting the the scoring will destroy the excitement associated with the lower rankings. Sure there will be some right before the playoffs... er, I mean, "chase" starts but then it will end. And end far earlier then it would have. The other problem is that those in playoffs.. oops I slipped again... will competing against people who aren't. What happens if number eleven beats the number one ranked driver. That's a little strange isn't it?

 

[ScubaTexan]

If you're in 17th place after 26 races, are you really going to go all out in the last 10 events, knowing full well that you can't compete for the title?

 

[Big-t-2538]

If you're in 17th place after 26 races, are you really going to go all out in the last 10 events, knowing full well that you can't compete for the title?

Or what is more important....a shot at the stage at the end of the year for driver and sponsor recognition as that is what is more important to those guys....and now they've got not chance.

....ummm....yeah...we're going to go ahead an dash your hopes here in the middle of the season.....

The only saving grace in this is actually the drivers b/c they will show up to race, and they will do it for the fans moreso than for the points. They are aware that the fans are the people that have driven the sport to whewre it is today....

IMO it's too bad some lame brained college educated ass in marketing came up with this wonderful idea along with Brian France and they said "This ain't your daddy's NASCAR, nor is it your daddy's daddy's NASCAR" They're right...it isn't....they all drive sober now.

Whatever...I'll be interested to see how many fans bring signs to the races protesting the points change.