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1: O-rings for Divers​


Question:

“ I'm a recreational diver. Why should I care about O-rings? ”


Answer:

“ For starters, an O-ring failure could empty your Scuba tank in about a minute. ”


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(Table Reprinted by permission)
This table appeared in Life Ending Seconds, 3000 to Zero in 72 Seconds, Advanced Diver Magazine by Curt Bowen




“ Don’t worry. Catastrophic O-ring failures are extremely rare, as long as you know what you're doing. ”




However, O-ring leaks aren't unusual at all, and can prematurely abort your dive or detract from an expensive vacation. Fortunately, understanding them is easy and will dramatically reduce failures. Many O-rings can be safely replaced in the field with minimal skill and are part of most Save-a-Dive kits.

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You can repair most leaks with some spare O-rings, a removal tool kit, a wrench or two, and some lubricant.

What is an O-ring?​

O-rings are "resilient" toroids (doughnuts) made from a variety of materials and are primarily used for liquid and gas tight pressure seals.

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Literally billions of O-rings are made every year. They come in an enormous variety of materials, sizes, colors, and shapes.

Where are O-rings Used?​

Most divers are wearing about 50 O-Rings. Here are a few of the diving-related products that depend on them:
  • Cylinder valves
  • Regulators
  • SPGs (Submersible Pressure Gauges)
  • Dive Computers
  • BCDs
  • Underwater lights and camera housings
  • High Pressure Compressors, Nitrox mixing systems, etc
  • Machinery and fittings on boats
  • Commercial diving equipment — like almost everything we use

O-ring Types​

O-ring applications are divided into two broad categories; Static and Dynamic. There are so many creative applications that some can be seen as hybrids. Static simply means that the sealing surfaces are not moving under pressure while dynamic do. For example:

Static​

  • Scuba cylinder to valve seals
  • Scuba valve to first stage seals, DIN and Yoke
  • Hose connections on first stage Scuba regulators
  • The lens seal on metal-body SPGs
  • Port and door seals on underwater camera housings
  • Door and port seals on decompression chambers
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The first O-ring that divers learn to use is usually the stage regulator connection to the cylinder valve. This image is of a DIN connector

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The first O-ring that divers learn to service is often the hose to first stage regulator connections

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O-ring grooves don't have to be round. This image of is an underwater camera housing. This is classified as a static pressure-seating face seal O-ring.

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Pressure-seated O-rings like this one don't require robust clamping mechanisms because the pressure does the work. The four small spring-loaded latches are all it takes to compress the O-ring enough to make the initial seal.

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This PLB (Personal Locator Beacon) housing has threaded caps at both ends with static piston seal O-rings. You can see the compression of the O-rings through the clear plastic tube.

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Sectional view of a conical Acrylic pressure-seating viewport for a deep submersible rated for 1,000 M or 3,281' working depth. Similar ports are used for decompression chambers. The O-Ring only functions at very shallow depths, enough for the pressure to create a metal to plastic seal.

Dynamic​

  • Cylinder valve stems
  • Hose connections on second stage Scuba regulators and swivels
  • Hose to SPGs and dive computer connections
  • Button and rotary controls on underwater camera and light housings
  • Power inflator quick disconnects on BCs (sort of a hybrid but they are allowed to rotate)
  • Hydraulic and pneumatic pistons including counterbalance pistons on hatch-back cars
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Hose connector to the second stage regulator is a dynamic seal. Look closely and you can see the brown O-ring in the groove under the lock nut.

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The standard HP (High Pressure) hose connection that was originally designed for SPGs are also used for AI (Air Integrated) dive computer adapters and wireless transmitters for AI wrist-mounted computers. Note the different style "spools" with a separate O-ring for the hose and the mating device.


Table of Contents for O-rings for Divers
Post 1: O-rings for Divers (this post)
[URL='https://www.scubaboard.com/community/threads/o-rings-for-divers.553724/']O-rings for Divers[/URL]
Why should I care?​
What is an O-ring?​
Where are O-rings Used?​
O-ring Types​

Post 2: How do O-rings Work?
[URL='https://www.scubaboard.com/community/threads/o-rings-for-divers.553724/#post-8116451']How do O-rings Work?[/URL]
Post 3: O-Ring Materials, Lubrication, and Maintenance
[URL='https://www.scubaboard.com/community/threads/o-rings-for-divers.553724/#post-8116452']O-Ring Materials, Lubrication, and Maintenance[/URL]
O-Ring Installation​
Material​
Lubrication​
Oxygen Cleaning and Compatibility​
Oxygen Cleaning in the Real World​

Post 4: O-Rings Buying Guide
[URL='https://www.scubaboard.com/community/threads/o-rings-for-divers.553724/#post-8116453']O-Rings Buying Guide[/URL]
Measurements​
Material​
Durometer​
Making Custom O-rings​
Pro Tips​

Post 5: O-ring History
[URL='https://www.scubaboard.com/community/threads/o-rings-for-divers.553724/#post-8116454']O-ring History[/URL]
Patents​
Enabling Technologies​

Post 6: DIY O-rings for Divers
[URL='https://www.scubaboard.com/community/threads/o-rings-for-divers.553724/#post-8116455']DIY O-rings for Divers[/URL]
Underwater Housings​
High Pressure Gas Systems​
Custom Gas Manifolds​
Custom Scuba Cylinder Manifolds​



Special thanks to the Scubaboard Moderators that helped me with this thread and XS Scuba for their technical assistance.


Continued in the next post

 
I disagree. You never know what o-rings you are buying, and therefore you never know how to buy replacement o-rings when you need them.

I believe we are in general agreement:
The easiest way to purchase O-rings is in pre-packaged rebuild or soft-goods kits. That relieves you having to determine the correct size, material, and Durometer required. However, it is also the most expensive method by a significant margin. Divers that want to buy from industrial O-ring suppliers may find the following information useful.

There are some advantages of starting with a soft-goods kit IF the manufacturer, supplier, or a generous ScubaBoard member can't provide the specification. New O-rings are much easier to measure. Many soft-goods kits also include non-O-ring proprietary sealing components such as regulator seats. It should be mentioned that measuring O-rings that have been in use for some time can be difficult to measure due to deformation — even for industrial O-ring shops. This is especially true for smaller sizes and imperial or metric sizes that are non-standard in your area.

Another factor is getting the right material and durometer. Deformed and old O-rings can be much harder than their original durometer, even with a calibrated duro-meter (the instrument). It can also be difficult to figure out the correct material of old and hard O-rings, even for O-ring pros.

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You have triggered an interesting thought: I wonder if ScubaBoard should start a thread with replacement O-ring specs for various products. These products come to mind:
  • Cylinder valves
  • Regulators
  • BCD valves
  • Computers
  • Lights
  • Camera housings
  • Strobe housings
  • Drysuit valves
The next challenge is figuring out how to organize them so readers can find the right product. It might be a little labor intensive for ScubaBoard Staff but the first post could be an product/model index with links to other posts in the thread, or perhaps other threads on ScubaBoard. Any thoughts?
 
The interpretation of easy is in the mind of the beholder!
 
I believe we are in general agreement:


There are some advantages of starting with a soft-goods kit IF the manufacturer, supplier, or generous ScubaBoard member can't provide the specification. New O-rings are much easier to measure. Many soft-goods kits also include non-O-ring proprietary sealing components such as regulator seats. It should be mentioned that measuring O-rings that have been in use for some time can be difficult to measure due to deformation — even for industrial O-rings shops. This is especially true for smaller sizes and imperial or metric sizes that are non-standard in your area.

Another factor is getting the right material and durometer. Deformed and old O-rings can be much harder than their original durometer, even with a calibrated duro-meter (the instrument). It can also be difficult to figure out the correct material of old and hard O-rings, even for O-ring pros.


You have triggered an interesting thought: I wonder if ScubaBoard should start a thread with replacement O-ring specs for various products. These products come to mind:
  • Cylinder valves
  • Regulators
  • BCD valves
  • Computers
  • Lights
  • Camera housings
  • Strobe housings
  • Drysuit valves
The next challenge is figuring out how to organize them so readers can find the right product. It might be a little labor intensive for ScubaBoard Staff but the first post could be an product/model index with links to other posts in the thread, or perhaps other threads on ScubaBoard. Any thoughts?
 

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The interpretation of easy is in the mind of the beholder!

I have been thinking about this. The "easiest" would be to have a link to a website with the best price and delivery for the O-ring you need. That's problematic because websites come and go and the best price and delivery for someone in Miami isn't necessarily the same for someone in Palau.

The other challenge is describing which O-ring the spec applies to in products with more than one. How do we describe "the" O-ring a diver wants short of having an exploded view drawing for every product?

I never had to purchase O-rings when I was outside of the US. They were always in the spares stores onboard the DSV (Diving Support Vessel) and more magically showed up when supplies got low. As a result, I have long forgotten how to specify metric O-rings. This matters more today because so many diving products are designed in millimeters and quite a few more materials are used now, especially in dive computers and camera housings.

The question is what would a complete specification look like for metric O-rings? Are metric O-ring part numbers universally used? Are metric O-rings based on the ID (Inside Diameter) and cross section diameter like US O-rings? Is the Shore durometer system used in the metric system?
 
Attached is a SP document that has SAE equivalent sizes for metric seals. It is a bit dated, as now most SP seals are either EPDM or Viton. For hardness, I try to keep it simple: High pressure differential seals get 85-90 shore A, low pressure differential seals get 70-75.

Yes, metric o-rings are purchased using the same hardness scale as SAE

McMaster-Carr McMaster-Carr
& Orings, Inc. OringsUSA are good vendors to purchase seals either in metric or SAE
 

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Amazing reference, thank you. I have a save-a-dive assortment that I purchased as a kit, the o-rings are all black rubbery/soft materials. My LDS replaced one of my tank/yoke rings as I had to do a field replacement on one of their tanks, and they gave me a much harder, white o-ring that they said was best for rental tank use -- frequent use in other words. It's much more damage-proof and robust than the rubber rings in my kit.
 

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