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JayJudge

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I was at Willow Saturday the 24th, and I was reminded of some simple rules for any dive site. First a run down of what happened. There is one warming shack, and one dock near it. People had their gear strewn across the dock, using space for 2-3 sets of equipment. Same thing with the warming shack. To top that off, 2 people were in the crowded shack (about 15 others), smoking cigarettes. I politely asked one to smoke outside, which he apologized and immediately left, my wife asked the other. This guy comes out spitting bullets, saying he can smoke anywhere he wants....who does she think she is....why doesn't she go outside. Now, I did not know my wife had asked the other guy to leave, 'cause I was outside having a cigar. So I piped up that many people diving would prefer not to be surrounded by smoke inside before their next dive. He explodes 'I have just as much F*ing right to be in there smoking as she does.' and a few more choice statements I won't repeat, as I came close to re-educating him in a WV way. Here is the topper- both were instructors. And if thats how he acts in public, its pretty sad. Now, to warn others of this guy before they waste time or money with his services, he has a vehicle (I won't name), DAN sticker in the window, and DUI drysuit. About 50. Smokes. Overweight. Gonna end up in Accidents and Incidents probably (man pounded to pulp by redneck diver), so you might wanna stay clear. But this did lead to my posting this in hopes new divers and veterans alike will remember some common things to help everyone have a good day.

1. We are all there to have fun. If not, then perhaps diving is not for you. Try work.
2. Try to keep your gear all in one small pile, change tanks by your vehicle, keep your mask off the ground or boat deck, and put your gearbags in a spot people will not trip over them.
3. If you smoke fine. On a boat, go aft (this is the rear of the boat for above DUI boy), downwind of everyone. You can spot that section of the boat by looking for the people hurling. On land, do it outside.
4. Don't move other peoples' stuff if you can help it. This is sometimes impossible, so take the effort to try to find the owner. Who knows, it may be that you'll meet the best buddy you've ever had. (or above DUI-boy, but I can't be responsible for that)
5. Offer help. The other group training at the site actually got all the ice off the dock. This helped everyone have a better day. If you see someone fumbling into a BC, give them a hand. Big eyes inside mask- talk to them about the dive. NO ONE wants to be around when an incident happens, let alone an accident. Maybe you can help their fear, maybe they shouldn't do the dive or maybe they always look that way.
6. Where ever you are, unless it is YOUR boat, dock, quarry, mud pit.....be respectful. If I need to give an example, hold your breath, I'll tell you later.
7. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Maybe you've never seen it before, maybe the locals do it differently, find out. And stick with me on this one people- give an answer if you know it. I asked one of DUI-boy's DM's what vis was like-before the incident- and I heard 'not as good as Dutch Springs'. Thanks lady. And Jersey is not as clear as Bonaire. And water is wet.
-Jay
p.s. If y'all have any additions, say them.
 
There are two things that go a long way in the diving world, common sense and common courtesy.

the K
 
Hey Jay;
I think I know who you are talking about. Blue Dodge Dakota? Real snotty? I met him, I didn't like him much either!
 
Hold a vote in the shack. It looks like 1 against 15 or more. Personally I can't tolerate smoke for any length of time. If the whole of the shack is against him, chances are he'll go, begrudgingly, but if he has any lick of common sense (remember 1 vs 15) then he'll leave to feed his addiction.
 
In todays world of laws of no smoking I am surprised that he would think its OK to smoke in a crowded room. Personally I think it sets a bad example to smoke in front of students. Anyone who works with me will not smoke in front of students. If they do they won't be working with me long.By the way I quit smoking over 9 years ago after smoking for 27 yrs.
 
Good points Jay, I dont smoke & neither does my wife, but as hard as it is to believe a lot of divers do. Most of those do stay to the back of the boat with the diesl fumes & other smokers. This guy seems like a real a-hole & it would have gone a whole lot further if he jumped my wife like that. But I respect your self restraint.
 
We were going wreck diving with about 16 divers when the last two showed up late. We were pulling away from the dock just as they arrived. Wish we could have left them. They proceeded to spread their gear all over the deck. One was seated next to me and had her reg draped over my gear. When we got up from the first dive, her mask was on the seat, her dive booties and gloves everywhere. I took one of the booties and put it in my dive bag, and my buddy on the oher side of her took another piece of her gear and tucked it behind his dive bag. She waited for the next dive before she even began looking for her gear and changing her tank. My buddy and I "found" her stuff for her. She was totally unaware.
 
There is an instructor who comes to the local quarry and sets their students up on the staging deck right in front of the steps that go to the dock. They bring large groups and they are really compact BUT they are literally right in front of the steps and you have to weave through their gear and sometimes through their dive briefings to get to the water. I have interrupted their briefings while trying to excuse my student's way through the throng to get to the water. There are plenty of tables for staging gear just a few feet from where they always set up if they really don't want to stage in their camping area.
Ber :lilbunny:
 
Start triping on his gear, maybe they'll get a wonderfull idea
 
How about as an instructor bringing your own "E-Z UP" type awning an setting it over a table for your class. Bring a heater for the cold days. This way you can set the rules in your own "House". If you want to smoke in there fine, just don't smoke where others have to breath. As an ex-smoker, I know what it is like to jones for a fix, but I don't want that trouble any more.

As a side question, if you saw someone set up something like that would you use it while they were in the water?
 

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