Not servicing my gear EVER!

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Aquaregia,

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you, what you proposing anyways? Never service your regulator or buy a new regulator every time you go on a dive trip or something else?
 
If I dive less often, on vacation only, I should buy a new regulator every service interval, rather than paying for the service.
 
If I dive less often, on vacation only, I should buy a new regulator every service interval, rather than paying for the service.

I am certain that NO Dive Center would object to that at all!! In fact, no one in the dive business would object. Go for it, spread it around, pass it on.
 
aquaregia,

I don't think that you need to go after the used regulators. If you go around dive shops and advocating this concept loudly to their client base, I am certain that you will be getting top of the line brand new regulators for free. Try it.

God Bless you!!
 
It just seems that If I don't service my gear at all. It will begin to mess up but slowly and gradually. In the sense that I would be able to catch it and would still be able to dive with it. It might freeflow or something small. Then I can service it when actaully needed. So bascily service gear based on its performance and not based soley on the date it was manufactured. Logically, I don't see my reg to be working perfectly on a morning dive then on a night dive that same day to completly fail at the exact moment that I hit the deck of the uscgc duane.
 
My buddy who is also the service tech for ScubaPro told me the worst thing you can do to a reg is not use it. Letting it dry out is the number one failure of the O-rings and seat.

This is a perfect example of why I service my own regs; another absurd comment from a supposedly "professional" reg tech. Do you really think that letting regs dry out causes them to fail or wear prematurely? What does your buddy suggest, that we store regulators wet? :shakehead:

Now, allowing regs to dry with salt water on them is very bad for the reg, but it's the metal parts that suffer corrosion, not the o-rings or seats.

BTW, you might mention to your tech friend that the HP seat in regulators stays dry all the time, so "letting it dry" might not be the "number one failure."
 
It just seems that If I don't service my gear at all. It will begin to mess up but slowly and gradually. In the sense that I would be able to catch it and would still be able to dive with it. It might freeflow or something small. Then I can service it when actaully needed. So bascily service gear based on its performance and not based soley on the date it was manufactured. Logically, I don't see my reg to be working perfectly on a morning dive then on a night dive that same day to completly fail at the exact moment that I hit the deck of the uscgc duane.

"Complete failure" (no usable gas for you) may be very rare but is ALWAYS a possibility. Service may effect the probability of such a failure but the effect can go in either direction depending on the condition of your regulator and the competence of your technician. Redundancy is the best solution to avoiding dangerous problems, not unnecessary service. But not all service is unnecessary. So one thing you really need to do is be able to determine when service is unnecessary versus necessary. And, of course, pay some serious attention to your plan for redundancy.
 
It just seems that If I don't service my gear at all. It will begin to mess up but slowly and gradually. In the sense that I would be able to catch it and would still be able to dive with it. It might freeflow or something small. Then I can service it when actaully needed. So bascily service gear based on its performance and not based soley on the date it was manufactured. Logically, I don't see my reg to be working perfectly on a morning dive then on a night dive that same day to completly fail at the exact moment that I hit the deck of the uscgc duane.

This is not directed at you copter53, just the ideas you expressed. You are right about catastrophic failure being unlikely, but I want to make sure you understand that the DIY guys (me included) who are saying "service only when needed" are keeping a VERY close eye on their equipment. We don't wait for problems to occur, we try to head them off....

If you pay attention to what the DIY guys are saying, you will NEVER be diving with equipment that is malfunctioning in even the most minor fashion. While we may not be overhauling our gear on an annual basis, we are inspecting and testing very frequently. This results in you knowing far more about the "state" of your gear than you would if you simply did the annual servicing, and this will normally allow you to detect problems very early, before there are any symptoms like freeflows.

I service my own regs, I do strongly advocate against un-needed service, but I will NOT dive with any piece of gear that is not performing 100%!

But sometimes, things still happen, even when you are inspecting and testing carefully. Small problems can still crop up. A couple dives ago, my wife had an octo freeflow ever so slightly at the dive site when she pressurized the reg. I'd tested it the night before, and it was 100% fine. I could only hear the "hiss" if I put the reg right next to my ear (which I do every time I pressurize a reg). I quickly swapped out the octo from my backup set, and we dove. I certainly could have done a quick "field repair" (detuned the octo slightly) and had her use it, but that would have been silly. I knew it was not a simple "tuning" problem... the seat was worn, and detuning would have stopped the leak, but would also reduce the performance of my wifes backup reg, which is not the right or safe solution.

A general "mechanical rule" is that mechanical problems usually don't just "go away on their own", and "small problems become BIG problems at the worst possible moment".

Personally, I would define "needing service" as any deviation from normal performance and function. The level of service needed just depends on what "deviation" is occuring. Maybe a "touch-up" tuning or adjustment is all that is needed, maybe a good cleaning and relube, but maybe a complete overhaul is needed.

As a footnote: The octo I mentioned above had gone 3 1/2 years since it's last "service". I obviously goofed with that octo; I waited a bit too long before servicing it :(

Best wishes.
 

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