Nitrox courses

[serambin]

I want to get a certification in EAN, but none of the LDS's in my area offer a course unless 3 or more divers enroll. At this time, no one is signed up at any of the shops, which brings about my question. Is anyone doing a 'correspondence course' in EAN? What other suggestions does anyone have for certification?

Thanks,

Stan

 

[D_B]

Your going to get a lot of ... "you have to dive it to properly learn it" responses and I agree

DB

 

[Bruciebabe]

I want to get a certification in EAN, but none of the LDS's in my area offer a course unless 3 or more divers enroll. At this time, no one is signed up at any of the shops, which brings about my question. Is anyone doing a 'correspondence course' in EAN? What other suggestions does anyone have for certification?

Thanks,

Stan

Mixed gasses are definitly the way to go . Problem is that they can kill you in so many ways. If nobody local does it then use up a vacation to go where you can do it properly. During any dive there is always something far better than air to breathe.

 

[zamboni19]

I don't understand the "you have to dive it to learn it" philosophy. With EANx you breathe the same way as with air and, providing you use EANx32, have the same max limit as standard PADI rec tables (132 FSW.)

I submit that any Nitrox course is an academic experience, that one need only learn the rules of EANx: PO2, 1.4-1.6 ata, exposure limits, recommended SI's with EANx, use of computers, and tables, and the math that one would use to back up the computer in the event of a failure.

And, since the average recreational diver 'outgrows' the use of tables and uses them only as a basic pre-dive reference and instead trusts in the computer they use, the math that a nitrox student would otherwise learn is, for the most part, irrelevant.

So........why do you need to "dive it" or even be in the same room with your instructor to learn to use Nitrox?

 

[Don Burke]

So........why do you need to "dive it" or even be in the same room with your instructor to learn to use Nitrox?

I agree on the low value of diving nitrox.

However, if I was an instructor, I would not issue a card to anyone I had not talked to about the subject.

 

[cfenton]

And, since the average recreational diver 'outgrows' the use of tables and uses them only as a basic pre-dive reference and instead trusts in the computer they use, the math that a nitrox student would otherwise learn is, for the most part, irrelevant.

I don't know where you dive and who you dive with...but nobody should ever "outgrow" tables and "instead trusts in the computer they use." This is exactly the kind of statement people shouldn't be making. I couldn't disagree more strongly that "the math that a nitrox student otherwise learn is, for the most part, irrelevant." When mixed gas diving there couldn't be anything more relevant than the math, it's the math that keeps us alive (wether calculated by a computer or a human). This is one of the most irresposible things I've heard in a while. What if the computer were to shut down; which has happened to me on several occasions...once with a significant amount of deco to do. I was glad that I hadn't "outgrown" the math.

Safe Diving,

 

[JRScuba]

I want to get a certification in EAN, but none of the LDS's in my area offer a course unless 3 or more divers enroll. At this time, no one is signed up at any of the shops, which brings about my question. Is anyone doing a 'correspondence course' in EAN? What other suggestions does anyone have for certification?

Thanks,

Stan

Yes, As with any class there is a minimum student requirement at every dive shop. I had to wait 8 months to take my EANx course. On the other hand If I wanted to pay for one on one that was an option. Only problem with that was, my pocket said there was not enough money. SSI does not ( I think ) require you to do a nitrox dive with you EANx instructor. That you can do on your own after you get Nitrox trained.

As someone mentioned earlier, There is no special we to breath any type of gas. So doing a dive with the class instructor is a waste of you time and MONEY.

No, I never heard of an online class. I'm sure if you wait l;ong enough it will happen.

If you have any more questions PM. If not, good luck and dive safely.

Joe

 

[D_B]

... OK , how about this one ... "Practice makes perfect"

DB

 

[Spratman]

NAUI offers two Nitrox courses. One with dives and one without dives. It's up to the individual.

However, since I'm in this to dive, why wouldn't I take the course with dives involved?? I feel your pain about waiting on classes. We have a dive shop up in these parts that if you call and tell them you want to do a certification, they will send you the material and complete the dives every other weekend at the local quarry.

Imagine....catering to the people that are spending the money....what a concept!!

 

[Li'l38]

I don't understand the "you have to dive it to learn it" philosophy. With EANx you breathe the same way as with air.......

I agree.

......... Nitrox course is an academic experience, that one need only learn the rules of EANx: PO2, 1.4-1.6 ata, exposure limits, recommended SI's with EANx, use of computers, and tables, and the math that one would use to back up the computer in the event of a failure.

This would be why you need an instructor. Safety is important and there's a lot to learn about EANx.

And, since the average recreational diver 'outgrows' the use of tables and uses them only as a basic pre-dive reference and instead trusts in the computer they use, the math that a nitrox student would otherwise learn is, for the most part, irrelevant.

It's foolish to rely on computer alone- again, for safety reasons.

So........why do you need to "dive it"

I don't think you should have to.

or even be in the same room with your instructor to learn to use Nitrox?

'Tis the instructor that issues the card!