Night shore dives; what time to plan them?

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CODMAN

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Hi all, only 9 days left before I take off to Roatan and I'm counting the seconds!!!:D :D

Not having much experience with night diving (never done it in the caribean), I was just wondering what is considered the best time for night diving from the Gazebo at FIBR? How should I plan them? Should I be diving the sunset to see the "critter transition"? Middle evening? Full night? Sunrise? Or is it all just the same?

If anybody has interesting input to give on this subject "when and why", I'd be glad to hear it!

Thanks in advance!:coffee:
 
Have done these dives in the past so here is my take on it. first do the dive in the daytime to give you a better Idea of the area etc at night . you actualy have 2 options if diving early evening around 7-8 pm you can go out from the gazebo or if you talk to the diveshop they will usualy run you out to the wreck and you can drop on the wreck and work your way to the plane and then back to the gazebo . Its the same dive as from the gazebo but it will give you more time on the wreck and makes the dive a little less rushed.

As the whole area is sand bottom theres not usualy much for bottom critters but usualy a fair # of fish and occasionaly the odd eagle ray. If you have the chance to do a night dive off one of the boats you will generaly dive the site during the day and return for your night dive if you can request marys place a great dive and even better night dive.

There best DM by far would be Daryn feel free to request him and tell him what you would like to dive and see he will make it happen.
 
This is probably the best night dive on Roatan. A big reason is, as NorthernShrinkage alludes to above- the idea is that you are intimately familiar with the dive site before the night dive. The Channel and its two wrecks, a DC3 and the 140' tanker are a haven for critters.

From FIBR there is an aircraft cable laid through the limited viz from the Gazebo to the DC3 aircraft. That is linked physically by a floated line to the Prince Albert, sunk intentionaly in 1984. FIBR will take you out in a small pram- save air and do it this way. Then swim back to the Gazebo.

CoCoView divers have a different view of the Channel and Prince Albert Wreck- they follow the PA's anchor chain that has been laid out from 3fsw in front of CCV and wanders thru the aquarium of shallow coral heads of CCV's "Front Yard" dive, see http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/ccv/vpost?id=516958

The DC3 is a bit scattered but recognizable. Two huge Caribbean Anemones s-l-o-w-l-y move around the starboard engine nacelle and the port aft of the wing. The shipwreck sits upright and intact, topping out in 22fsw with the bow in 35' and the stern hanging over 65fsw.

Since it is all "linked" together, once you get the lay of the land, you can't get lost. This alleviates one of the biggest fears of night diving, "will I find my way back???

There is a 7' Green Moray that owns the place. He is either sunning himself on the port side main deck, just in front of the aft pilot house, under a large valve wheel- or he is patrolling the DC3's head (or under the wreckage). His name is Willy.

More advanced divers, those with developed skills in buoyancy and observation- they will be delighted at the variety of crustaceans that smother the wreck, both microscopic and larger. Many people just thunder by them unknowing. It's easy to find the Secretary Blennies that live on the uppermost rails as they dart out and eat... if you slow down and look for the small stuff.

Look where the deck plates are delaminating. Within the small layers, see the crustaceans that lurk within. Always take a flashlight and get a glass magnifier if you want to see what the experts are seeing.

At night, there is at least two basket stars in residence, one on the starboard aft davit (can you figure out where he hides during the day?) and a very dark colored one amidships. "Feed" them by shining your light upwards and across their arms (never ON the arms or critter as that will cause them to roll slowly into a ball- they will think night is over and its time to go home). Note their capturing techniques as the snag the larval critters and gobble them up. Remember- never shine your light on them.

Just forward of the one on the davit, note the starboard aft cleat. An Octopus lives within. Above your head in the superstructure often lurks a 3 foot long Grouper.

At night, note all of the corals and the feeders they extend- my favorite is the one on the starboard forecastle ladder top, about the size of a football attached to a horizontal railing. Find it at night, but if you bump or touch it- game over! "Feed it" by attracting clear critters with your upturned flashlight. Take a few minutes to do this. This has to be the fattest, most well-fed coral in the world. as you take that two minutes and watch the tentacles seize and pull unlucky critters inside, note the resident symbiotic Shrimp that is impervious to the tentacles.

The bottom of the channel is not to be ignored. Find Box Crabs, Flounders, Rays buried below, and during the day- see the Garden Eels... and more.

Here's more info: http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/ccv/vpost?id=516963

A shiny new dime for the observant and expertly buoyant diver that finds the Orange Ball Correlamorphs.

It's my favorite dive, we do it at 2000 hrs and 2300 hrs, yup- twice a night! I have lost count how many times, close to 300 dives.
 
Roatan Man --- what time is best for those night dives? I've noticed that some dive sites seem to have dead period for a half hour or so, right after sunset, so I generally prefer to go in a bit before sunset and watch the daytime creatures scurrying back to the hidey holes, or to wait unit an hour or so after sunset and watch the nocturnal creatures.

Have you noticed the same sort of gap in activity where daytime creatures have settled in for the night, but the nocturnal creatures are waiting for it to get a bit darker?
 
Charlie99:
Roatan Man --- what time is best for those night dives? I've noticed that some dive sites seem to have dead period for a half hour or so, right after sunset, so I generally prefer to go in a bit before sunset and watch the daytime creatures scurrying back to the hidey holes, or to wait unit an hour or so after sunset and watch the nocturnal creatures.

Have you noticed the same sort of gap in activity where daytime creatures have settled in for the night, but the nocturnal creatures are waiting for it to get a bit darker?

I noticed this as well when I was at CocoView back in June.
The BloodWorms didn't come out until about an hour
after dark. Wife and I saw a lot more night life on what we call
the "night night" dives which are dives that start about an hour
after sunset vs the twilight dives which started right at sunset.
On the later dives we even saw several octopus on the
Prince Albert.

--- bill
 
bperrybap:
I noticed this as well when I was at CocoView back in June.
The BloodWorms didn't come out until about an hour
after dark. --- bill

I don't know if there is "one" best time. Just as the bloodworms which are tremendously seasonal, critters operate at different times. I'm not so sure if there really is a better time, one over another. Most of my shore dives are 1:30 BT's, so there is a lot of variation within that dive.

I attribute it to my laziness and the attractiveness of dinner. At CCV, it rolls out at 1820 hrs and I usually am at the front of the line. Eat and go get ready to be in the water at 2000 hrs. After that, most everyone else goes to bed. A half hour later, I'm walking back out again for my second night dive at 2230 hrs. Honestly- I see much the same things.

Any number of people do those "dusk dives" and I see them coming in as we are finishing dinner.

Corals (and Basket Stars) love :10: Blood Worms. Yummy.
 
Thanks for the great feedback R-man and the others! Very helpfull! I leave on Saturday morning early (very early) and get there around 2pm I believe... I don't know if I'll be able to sneak in a shore dive or not (just to fine tune buoyancy and practice shooting pics)...??

I was also wondering what Fantassy Islands "front yard" is like... I now know what CoCo's is like... But Fantassy seems to be on the other side of the chanel, so I was wondering... But I guess I'll soon find out!

Anyways, thanks again for all your help! :coffee:
 
CODMAN:
I was also wondering what Fantassy Islands "front yard" is like... I now know what CoCo's is like... But Fantassy seems to be on the other side of the chanel, so I was wondering...

It's essentialy the same, but different ;) . It is best if you get FIBR to drop you off over the Prince Albert Wreck, otherwise it's a bit of a haul from FIBR, about another 175 feet beyond the CCV distance. It is also through water which is usualy a lot murkier.

The CCV path is marked by the wreck's anchor chain. I starts from a little "platform" in 3fsw where you dump your sunglasses, steady yourself to put on your flips, before you follow the anchor chain path through the coral heads. It leads you right to the wreck. The path is a nursery of little critters in an aquarium. Look up to see Squid at the 15 foot buoy.

The FIBR dive is from the Gazebo where you find a 1/2" aircraft cable and work your way across a siltated wall to the DC3. Don't just scamper along this bank ignoring it as a dreary moonscape. Lots of treasures lurk there! look for Eel, Octopuus and several Crustaceans.

From the DC3, which is in three main pieces, locate the upper fuselage. You will see a 5/8" nylon line running East to the Prince Albert. It is buoyed in the middle of its 60' span by a 1 gallon bleach bottle. The channel floor also has some deliberate land marks that lie along the path. If you swim more than 45 seconds and deeper than 50 feet, you missed it.

Get to know the place, see how the "man-laid" objects connect. You simply can not get lost once you know this simple environment.

If you have a calm moonlit night, be certain to get on top of Newman's Wall, just in front of FIBR- it's an Octopus' Garden!

From either place, the night/shore dive is easy breezy, but you'll find more divers there from CCV. FIBR has many other distractions!
 

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