Newbie Divers Heading to Curacao, lots of questions

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I understand your point Susy and totally agree that leaving anything either inside the vehicle in plain site or in the back is foolhardy and should not be done. That said, with 4 people in a vehicle, 4 sets of dive gear and up to 8 tanks are more than most large cars are capable of handling,much less the smaller cars used in Curacao. Plus there is the problem of all the gear being wet inside a car.
 
I understand your point Susy and totally agree that leaving anything either inside the vehicle in plain site or in the back is foolhardy and should not be done. That said, with 4 people in a vehicle, 4 sets of dive gear and up to 8 tanks are more than most large cars are capable of handling,much less the smaller cars used in Curacao. Plus there is the problem of all the gear being wet inside a car.


Never really had a problem with that while Judy and I were in Cuaraco this past December. The small car we rented hauled both of us and our gerar and had plenty of room for us; but we were only two divers.

As to the Dive Bus, well Referhead be forewarned, all not as it first appears....especially with that Crowley character. At first he may only look a bit odd, but once you finally get to dive with him you'll find that he is quite a bit odd, although fun to have a dive guide. (sorry Crowley couldn't resist). Seriously the folks at "The Bus" are all great, professional; even that crowley character.

Make sure you to the Tugboat. It's not the grandest dive site on the island, but it's a fun dive; and the only place we saw the ever elusive frogfish. And yes Crowley, I promise that the next time I'm down there diving with you, and you point out a huge stonefish, my camera will not be flooded).

Of the dive sites that we visited, we loved them all, and didn't have a bad dive. We did a fair bit of independant shore diving, chartered out of OEW (make sure to tell Tuki that the Rick and Judy from Canada say hello), did a three tank day wth the folks at The Dive Bus; that's why I know all about that Crowley character.;)

If you have a limited amount of dive time, I thnk the following are the "must do" dive sites/beaches;

Alice in Wonderland
Watamula
Mushroom Forest
Playa Lagun
Paradise
Santa Cruz
The Tugboat
Porto Marie
Cas Abou
Car Pile
The Producer (If you can get to it, we couldn't as there was always a ship in port)

If you're on a "dive" vacation and the shopping/touring thing isn't a big prioriy, I'd get a decent place out in the West End and save yourself the driving. But if you also want to be in close proximity to town, and are not looking for an AI, I'd suggest the Lion's Dive Resort. Quite frankly they were one of the best outfits I've ever stayed with while in the Carribean. (Although the next time Judy and I go Curacao, we'll probably stay in the West (Sunshine, we'll talk..) as we covered pretty well most of the east side attractions.)

Of the the dive ops we used ....

OEW in Westpunt is a great outfit, as is OE at the Lion's.
The Dive Bus, well I've already talked about "those" folks..LOL
Discover Diving in Playa Lagun

We structured our independant dive days around beaches and diove sites with facilities, so we never had to haul tanks around the island. Of note were Cas Abou, and Porto Marie, Playa Lagun and Playa Kalki. Of the two beaces are a must, even if you're not diving; Porto Maire and Cas Abou.

If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me, I've got some extensive notes which one day I'll compile into a full trip report; if anyone is interested.
 
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Try staying at the Hilton Curacao- we have 2 times before....we get the executive level oceanview room and it includes breakfast every morning as well as snacks and cocktail hour at night. The reef off of the hotel was awesome...we did so much shore diving the second trip around that we didn't do that many boat dives...
boat dives to do though: mushroom forrest, tug boat, blauubai(spelling?) car pile.
We had frogfish and seahorses right off the beach at the hilton...it was awesome.
 
Seems I'm getting quite the reputation here!!

"odd but fun"... I can live with that; I'll mail you some Polar!!

:D

Aaaanyway, not about to let another thread get hijacked on my behalf...; lots of good Curacao advice in here, which is the way it should be, regardless of whom you dive with. At the end of the day the island is less than 40 miles long, so although navigation can be a little haphazard it's really not rocket science.

A note on the crime thing: Curacao has, I feel, been a little maligned in this respect. If you park a car full of valuable things in a remote area then you can expect to be robbed. This is not especially particular to Curacao, I think you'll find it in pretty much any place in the world. Best advice is to not leave anything worth stealing in your car, and most of the dive shops leave their vehicles empty and unlocked. If somebody's going to break in they will do it anyway, and leaving your vehicle unlocked at least saves the cost of a broken window.

Whatever you do and wherever you go, I hope you enjoy your stay here! :-)

Dive Happy,

C.
 
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A note on the crime thing: Curacao has, I feel, been a little maligned in this respect. If you park a car full of valuable things in a remote area then you can expect to be robbed. This is not especially particular to Curacao, I think you'll find it in pretty much any place in the world. Best advice is to not leave anything worth stealing in your car, and most of the dive shops leave their vehicles empty and unlocked. If somebody's going to break in they will do it anyway, and leaving your vehicle unlocked at least saves the cost of a broken window.

I've got to agree with Crowley on this one. Before Judy and I went down there, I had read a lot about the petty crime, on this board and on others, and it had me a bit worried, but once I got down there, and traveled around some of the island I came to realize that this is more hype than the norm.

Petty property crimes are crimes of opportunity, and are not incidents isolated to one area in the world. Granted some may say that it happens less in my backyard, but that can be debated with examples and incidents to support both sides of the argument. The easiest way to avoid these crimes of opportunity is to remove the opportunity. No opportunity, no petty crime.

As Suzy and Crowley have both suggested; if you're going to hit the more remote beaches (the non developed or non staffed ones), take with you only that which you need for the dives, and leave the rest at your hotel. Leave nothing of value in your car while it's parked at the remote sites, and leave your doors unlocked.

Take along a small dry box and put a few gilders, your ID, and your car key in it, and clip it off , or better stick it in a pocket (I hate danglies :no:) take it down with you.

If you're the obsessive kind who absolutely cannot deal with this little stress, stick to the developed beaches, many have parking lot security, rental lockers, etc. (Cas Abo, Porto Marie, Hook's Hut, Playa Lagun for example.) the diving at these locations is great, and you get the added bonus of having a dive shop and snack bar on site.

HINT: If you're going to hit the developed beaches (a MUST (IMHO) if you have non divers trekking with you for the day) plan your trip so you visit these beaches during the week day as they can pack up on the weekend. Being on those beaches during the week gives you that "alone paradise" feeling that can only truly be achieved when the beach is practically empty; and for that, the weekdays are best.

Renting tanks is easily done on the island as there are many good shops and we didn't have any issues with regards to the quality of the gas we got. We dove primarily 32% while we were there, and the mixes were pretty good for your typical partial pressure fills. If you are staying at a resort with a dive shop, you can rent your tanks for the day from them, and haul them around, (or hit up Suzy and Mark for cylinders) the daily rental cost per tank doesn't vary all that much throughout the island (at least not more than a few gilders on either side) but some shops offer a better package deals than others. (Again Suzy and Mark for example have a pretty good deal on their packages)

OR

If you are hitting the developed beaches, and you are four divers in one smaller vehicle, you can rent your tanks from the beach's dive shop. The more popular developed beaches, Hook's Hut, Cas Abo, Playa Lagun, Porto Marie, Playa Kalki have dive shops on or nearby the beach, as well as snack shops/bars, and many have rental lockers for added security. Judy I and did this and we never had a problem getting air with the only issue being one beach was out of nitrox, so we dove air for those dives.

HINT: If you are going to be diving nitorx and htting a local baech's dive shop, call a day or so in advance and they'll reserve your cylinders for you.

You need not be a Mensa candidate to navigate the island. Get a good map, The Drive and Dive Map that Suzy mentioned is a very good one (the B&B Curacao is better but out of print and damn hard to find nowadays) and use the driver plus navigator method. Judy, who sometimes can be directionally challenged, was easily able to call out the "rights and lefts", and many of the dive sites were well marked on the roadside. While road signage exists, I would suggest that you study the map (it will only take a few minutes before starting out) plan your route out in advance and have you passenger look for signs and obvious waypoints like tourist signage, and village names etc; street signs do exists, more or less, but can a bit hard to see and interpret on the fly.

Remember you are on an island (I know; Duh), but often travelers forget that there is "big city go, go, go, time and "Island time" Don't expect the traffic (yes there is some traffic on the roads during your typical peak period) the roads to be ripping along like a typical highway in North America and Europe. Expect to get stuck behind someone poking along and although the island's only 40 km (30 miles) long, do not time your trip the same way you would at home. I made this mistake the first time Judy and I drove to west Punt (we traversed the island many times during our two week stay) and damn near missed our charter. The roads are good. Not fantastic, not great, but good. The islandÃÔ main traversing roads are two lanes, often narrow, and unlined, with soft shoulders. In other words watch how and when you pass. Watch out for goats, chickens, and the occasional dog; they tend to wander around a bit.

Take your time; and I mean that in all you do while you're down there. It's a beautiful island, with friendly people, great diving but if you head down there will the "go, go, go" attitude you may "See" the island, but miss its beauty.

Cheers!

Rick
 
My personal opinion - your wife and the other non-divers would be bored to death at either Habitat, Sunset Waters or Lodge Kura Hulanda after a few days. Habitat and LKH don't even have a beach, it's mostly rocks/ironshore - except for a tiny strip at LKH as I recall. And all are out west, a good 20 min. + drive back to town/civilization. From LKH it's about 45mins. back to town. Great for divers but not much to do except hang around the pool or bar for the non-divers as the first two are isolated properties and the Lodge is in West Punt - maybe 4-5 restaurants max and some houses. I recently read here that the beach at Sunset Waters was damaged in the last storm.

A better option is one of the hotels in Piscadera Bay, either the Marriott (very nice) or Hilton - imo almost as nice. Both at least have beaches, casinos, more than one eating option etc. And are 15mins. drive from downtown - 15-30 mins. from some of the better divesites to the west also.

Going east past "downtown" Willemsted, Breezes is an AI resort right next to the Divebus with Lions Dive just a little further down. Ocean Encounters is right next door for boat dives and past that is the SeaAquarium with the Dolphin encounters.

The shopping is almost all downtown btw. It's those colorful storefronts you see on the website. And behind that for several blocks - including a sort of farmers/seafood market.

I must be link crazy tonite...lol.
 
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Hi Nick,
You could try out Limestone Holiday Appartments. They have a great rating on Trip Advisor and I stayed there myself. Really comfortable, private and an exclusive private beach. They are situated near Spanish Water which is on the East of the island (upwind of the oild refinery). They have their own rental cars so the all in package may suit you guys. There are a lot of dive sites in this area that you would like. Nice walls and beautiful coral. Don't know much about other dive centers but my preference has been Silent Immersion, I have returned to them for three years now and am very happy with the facility, the dive instructors and great customer service.
 

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