New level of insta-buddy trouble

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ItsBruce

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WARNING:

I’ve been following a thread entitled “DMs can get in trouble.” As a result, I’ve done a bit of legal research on one of the items being discussed there. In the process, I found what I consider to be a whole new level of problems with “insta-buddies.” I hate to sound like Chicken Little in announcing that the sky is falling, but THE SKY IS FALLING.

Here is what I found: There was a lawsuit against a dive operator and dive master resulting from a diver’s death. The case was decided by the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii in 1993. The case itself is entitled Tancredi v. Dive Makai Charters and is found at 823 F.Supp. 778, for those who care. Basically, what happened was that Tancredi, an inexperienced diver with an OW certification, but no deep diving experience, went on a dive charter that took the group on a 145 foot dive with a bottom time of 20 minutes. The diver charter did not assign a buddy to Tancredi. The other divers had buddies. During the dive, Tancredi had an OOA. The DM had used the last of his own air to fill a lift bag on the anchor, was also OOA and couldn't help him. The DM was able to share with another diver and surfaced. Tancredi died. In the ensuing lawsuit, the court found the dive charter and DM were negligent for: failing to ascertain whether Tancredi was qualified for the dive, not ensuring Tancredi had a dive buddy, exceeding the PADI maximum depth, doing a deco dive, doing a dive that left divers with very little air at the end of the dive, and for the DM using up his remaining air to fill the lift bag.

Here is where things get scary for me: In finding the dive charter negligent in failing to assign Tancredi a buddy, the court said: “The evidence indicated that it is a breach of the standard of care in the recreational dive industry for a dive charter company to conduct a dive without assigning ‘buddy’ teams. A ‘buddy’ assumes the responsibility for monitoring and assisting the other member of the ‘buddy’ team at all times during a dive. The court finds that it is probable that an assigned ‘buddy’ would have assisted Tancredi by giving Tancredi additional air when he first indicated breathing difficulty and would have helped Tancredi to the surface at a time when his life could have been saved.”

I’m not going to get into distinctions between rulings that are binding precedent and comments which are not. I do not think that the quoted passage rises to the level of binding precedent. Too much of it relies on the specific evidence that was presented in the particular case. However, I could certainly see an attorney arguing that this case establishes a duty to assign a buddy. I could also see an attorney arguing that this case establishes what a buddy’s duty is, namely to “assume responsibility for monitoring and assisting the other member of the ‘buddy’ team.” I could also see another court adopting the arguments. Were that to happen, it would mean that a buddy who does not monitor and assist another member of the buddy team, could be held liable in the event of an injury.

I’m not particularly worried about being sued when my buddy is one of my own choosing. But, the court’s comments give real cause for concern when one gets paired up with a stranger. Maybe I’m being paranoid, but for as sue-happy as society has become, I think I'm justified in being concerned.

I will consider the feasibility of requiring that an insta-buddy sign a liability waiver before a dive. Depending on what I find, I may address this further.
 
Being paired with an incompetent buddy is a valid concern.

However to claim that the sky is falling based on one 12 year old court case, seems just a tad hyperbolic to me. Can you point to an increase in this type of litigation ? What were the number of such cases over the past 5 years ?

Besides, the issue in the court case was the lack of buddy for Tancredi (aside from the dive sounding like a serial disaster).

If you are paired with such a person, you always have the possibilty to:

1) Not dive with him
2) Thumb the dive if things look bad
3) When he does get into trouble, you help him to the extent that it doesn't endanger you (This is called "due dilligence" and as I recall is a legal defence against being sued).
 
Case precedent gets on my radar. I just hope it doesn't mess up my diving solo. Dive operators could take this to mean you must have a buddy.
 
Buddy? What's that?
 
ItsBruce:
Basically, what happened was that Tancredi, an inexperienced diver with an OW certification, but no deep diving experience, went on a dive charter that took the group on a 145 foot dive with a bottom time of 20 minutes. The diver charter did not assign a buddy to Tancredi. The other divers had buddies. During the dive, Tancredi had an OOA. The DM had used the last of his own air to fill a lift bag on the anchor, was also OOA and couldn't help him. The DM was able to share with another diver and surfaced. Tancredi died. In the ensuing lawsuit, the court found the dive charter and DM were negligent for: failing to ascertain whether Tancredi was qualified for the dive, not ensuring Tancredi had a dive buddy, exceeding the PADI maximum depth, doing a deco dive, doing a dive that left divers with very little air at the end of the dive, and for the DM using up his remaining air to fill the lift bag.
Well, even ignoring the "exceeding PADI maximum depth" and "did not assign a dive buddy" part ... I would say the dive plan and execution displayed an amazing amount of negligence on the part of the dive charter. To my concern, if even the DM ended up running out of air on the dive, this dive plan was flawed before the divers ever got in the water. Betchya they were on AL80's, breathing air, and narced out of their mind when they went into deco. DM's are supposed to know better. At a minimum, they should've had hang tanks at 20 feet.

It's a pity more charters don't get sued for taking inexperienced, untrained divers on dives like that ... then perhaps the dive professionals who promote these trips would start to consider something more than simply the client's money ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
So the Dive operation is charged with all the neglegence and they are the ones who are responsible. The diver was trained, just not to the level of making a decompression dive. Also, HE ran out of air. At what point do YOU begin your ascent knowing your air reserve. Do people on a DM'd charter float around until the DM checks thier gauges and tells them its time to go? Although the charter should have refused taking the OW diver on a very advanced dive the individual should have bailed. The "liability" issues are getting ridiculous.

Some of the other recent posts are about the DM's responsibility on a dive. I would believe that they are there for assistance and as a guide if required for unfamilliar areas but ultimately the dive should be the individuals responsibility. If I'm running low on air I will signal my buddy and make a safe ascent. If I can't get anyone's attention then-see ya, I'm not hanging around in trouble or buddy breathing to make a dive last five minutes longer for the "group".

The gentleman who died on that charter had the resposibility to refuse to dive or remain within the limits of his training and surface when he felt HIS dive was over. Its like that saying "If someone told you to jump off a bridge, whould you?". I guess today you could sue the guy who told you to go do it............ugh
 
The Horn:
So the Dive operation is charged with all the neglegence and they are the ones who are responsible. The diver was trained, just not to the level of making a decompression dive. Also, HE ran out of air. At what point do YOU begin your ascent knowing your air reserve. Do people on a DM'd charter float around until the DM checks thier gauges and tells them its time to go? Although the charter should have refused taking the OW diver on a very advanced dive the individual should have bailed. The "liability" issues are getting ridiculous.

Some of the other recent posts are about the DM's responsibility on a dive. I would believe that they are there for assistance and as a guide if required for unfamilliar areas but ultimately the dive should be the individuals responsibility. If I'm running low on air I will signal my buddy and make a safe ascent. If I can't get anyone's attention then-see ya, I'm not hanging around in trouble or buddy breathing to make a dive last five minutes longer for the "group".

The gentleman who died on that charter had the resposibility to refuse to dive or remain within the limits of his training and surface when he felt HIS dive was over. Its like that saying "If someone told you to jump off a bridge, whould you?". I guess today you could sue the guy who told you to go do it............ugh
Sorry, but I don't agree with you.

In theory ... yes, you are correct. But in practice, with the popularity of the week-end OW classes, new divers don't typically learn enough to make responsible decisions ... they are taught just enough to not drown while they follow a DM around and trust that he or she will take them where they are supposed to go ... including the surface ... when it is time to do so.

People pay a lot of money for these charters. They are assured by DM's, boat captains, and LDS employees that these dives are perfectly safe ... and they trust that those people know more than they do, so it must be OK.

That's the reality.

At what point do YOU begin your ascent knowing your reserve
How much gas management is really taught in your typical OW class these days? It usually boils down to "end the dive with 500 psi", without a clue as to how that is supposed to happen. I can count on one hand the number of OW certified divers who didn't give me a blank stare when I asked them about turn pressure.

Do people on a DM'd charter float around until the DM checks thier gauges and tells them its time to go?
For too many, the answer is an unqualified "yes" ... one only has to read some of the stories on this board to see that's the case.

If I'm running low on air I will signal my buddy and make a safe ascent. If I can't get anyone's attention then-see ya, I'm not hanging around in trouble or buddy breathing to make a dive last five minutes longer for the "group".
You're looking at this from the viewpoint of an experienced diver. This person was not experienced. For all intents and purposes, he was a child being led by an adult.

First off, he had no buddy. Secondly, at 145 feet I'd be willing to bet he was narced beyond the point of being capable of making rational decisionis. Third point, I doubt his rationale was making the dive last longer, but rather that he was incapable of making a free ascent unassisted, and found himself in a situation where he had to rely on the DM for help. And finally, the DM didn't even make the decision to ascend when he should have ... as evidenced by the fact that he, too, ran out of air. Therefore, how can one reasonably expect the inexperienced diver to make better decisions than the trained, experienced professional?

I don't doubt that these points all factored into the judge's decision ... which, to my concern, was the proper one to make.

It IS a charter's responsibility to not take divers into situations they are not qualified for. In most cases, the diver won't know in advance that they are not qualified ... you don't know what you don't know ... but in this case, the charter certainly should have known that they have no business taking an inexperienced OW-certified diver to 145 feet ... especially without a buddy, and even more so, especially knowing that the vast majority of divers cannot make that dive on a typical rental tank. Furthermore, the implication is that deco was involved, which is a clearly irresponsible practice. Charters who take recreationally trained divers on dives like that SHOULD be put out of business ... because they are placing their profits over the safety of their clients.

The first rule of dive planning is to choose a site that's appropriate for ALL of the divers involved. When I was in Hawaii, the charter I went out on twice declined requests to dive a particular site because there was one or more divers on the boat that they determined were not qualified to dive that site. While I was disappointed, I certainly supported that decision as the right thing to do. Charters DO have a responsibility, and in this case ... based on the facts reported in the original post ... there was clear negligence on their part to take their clients to a place where they were all qualified to dive.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Further Info:

The court did discuss narcosis. Trancardi did try to get air from another diver, who pointed him toward the surface. Instead of doing that, he headed down toward the DM who was messing with the anchor. Trancardi ended up on the particular dive because the one he had planned on going on was full -- he was a last minute add on. Everyone else had previously dived with the particular dive operator.
Also, the court noted that once you are on the boat, its kind of hard to sit out the dive.

BTW: The court did find Trancardi was also negligent, to the tune of 20% and that reduced his family's recovery, but did not get the dive operator off the hook.
 
Thanks for posting that Bruce.
It would seem this operator made same bad decisions here but as for buddy liability I am wondering how much obligation a buddy should be expected to assume.
The dive operator may ask to see a log book but usually they ask for a c-card at most
The buddy knows little about his insta-buddy other than what may be discussed on the boat
I think the dive operator by being required to find suitable buddys for divers are opening themselves up to another level of responsability
The only solution I can see to protect the operator is for them to require divers who arrive solo to either hire a DM for the dives or produce a solo dive cretification. This would be a defencable alternative to the insta-buddy

NWGratefulDiver:
It's a pity more charters don't get sued for taking inexperienced, untrained divers on dives like that ... then perhaps the dive professionals who promote these trips would start to consider something more than simply the client's money

So Bob, you think more lawsuits will make the world a better place? Thats a load of you-know-what. We need divers who know how to dive before they get on the boat, not take the responsability off the people who issue the c-cards and onto the folks who are trying to provide a service.
 

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