New Kind of Full Face Scuba Mask

[JVanste]

Good morning, everyone. I am looking for someone that can help me develop my idea. This full face scuba mask is basically a regular scuba mask and a scuba regulator combined. Also, it has a mouthpiece inside. The size of the eye and nose area will be the same size of a regular scuba mask and the mouth area will be very snug. I generated this image that's below using AI. I would really appreciate it if someone can help me with this.

 

[JohnnyQuest]

Why would you want to develop this? Who would buy it? Who would want it?

Edit: Oh, I see that you posted this under the Disabilities section....

 

[JVanste]

Why would you want to develop this? Who would buy it? Who would want it?

Other full face scuba masks are too bulky and have too much buoyancy. This full face scuba mask will be for people with disabilities that want to be able to swim to the bottom without any weights or assistance.

 

[Bigbella]

The design is little different in principle than that of the old Cressi-Sub / Pegasus type of FFM that has been around for more than six decades -- one that was covered, in fact, in a previous thread ftom last year:

Thread 'Full Face Scuba Masks'

Mar 7, 2024

Just out of curiosity, is there a full face scuba mask that's super low-volume?

• JVanste
• Replies: 16
• Forum: Divers with Disabilities

Why reinvent the wheel; and further, why eliminate any diver's choice of regulators?

 

[JVanste]

That mask is little different in principle from the old Cressi-Sub / Pegasus type of FFM that has been around for more than five decades, one that was covered by you, in fact, in a previous thread:

Thread 'Full Face Scuba Masks'

Mar 7, 2024

Just out of curiosity, is there a full face scuba mask that's super low-volume?

• JVanste
• Replies: 16
• Forum: Divers with Disabilities

Why reinvent the wheel?

The old Cressi mask doesn't have a lower strap for the lower part of the head. Also, the regulator might fall out.

 

[Bigbella]

The old Cressi mask doesn't have a lower strap for the lower part of the head. Also, the regulator might fall out.

No, it possesses the standard "spider-strap" design of most FFMs -- and the regulator mouthpiece is secured to the mask with a cable tie.

It's not going anywhere.

Over decades of use, I have yet to lose a regulator -- and, for that matter, how would you propose to replace that seemingly integral lower strap in that nifty AI mask rendering -- because you've gotta know that it will eventually fail?

I've replaced the cheap-o straps any number of times, over the years; they're truly the weakest link of any FFMs -- looks too costly to me . . .

 

[TravisD]

No, it possesses the standard "spider-strap" design of most FFMs -- and the regulator mouthpiece is secured to the mask with a cable tie.

It's not going anywhere.

Over decades of use, I have yet to lose a regulator -- and, for that matter, how would you propose to replace that seemingly integral lower strap in that nifty AI mask rendering -- because you've gotta know that it will eventually fail?

I've replaced the cheap-o straps any number of times, over the years; they're truly the weakest link of FFMs -- looks costly . . .

Are those really meant to be rigged with a mouthpiece inside? (Vs just tying the reg into the mask sans moutpiece). I saw a guy at the quarry diving one of those rigged with the mouthpiece inside and the effect was basically a ball-gag, limiting communication (speech) while on the surface. I always figured that half the point of a FFM was to not have something stuck in your mouth like that...

 

[Bigbella]

Are those really meant to be rigged with a mouthpiece inside? (Vs just tying the reg into the mask sans moutpiece). I saw a guy at the quarry diving one of those rigged with the mouthpiece inside and the effect was basically a ball-gag, limiting communication (speech) while on the surface. I always figured that half the point of a FFM was to not have something stuck in your mouth like that...

It had always been intended for a mouthpiece fitted within the mask, so far as I am aware, and have never seen it used otherwise. I had just been in the habit of taking them off while on the surface, if need be, for any communications, etc — the same as with any other OTS or Poseidon Atmosphere, a positive pressure, fully-vented FFM without a mouthpiece.

That Poseidon / Cressi-Sub / Pegasus model (they all distributed them at one time) had really been the thing for cold water diving, since the late 1950s; and there's still a reason why they remain on the market.

Here's a blurry shot of a Cousteau diver in the Antarctic, from circa 1970, sporting one -- minus, laughably, any Aqua-Lung / U.S. Divers products . . .

 

[Ontwreckdiver]

There are already 2 similar full face masks.

Spectrum Full-Face Mask - Ocean Technology Systems

With the Spectrum Full Face Mask, Ocean Technology Systems created the best Full Face Mask on the market that allows divers to user their own regulators and eliminating the heavy cost associated with standard FFMs, without sacrificing luxury.

oceantechnologysystems.com

https://scubapro.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/shop/masks/full-face-dive-mask-black

 

[grantmac]

The only mask safe enough for someone who is too disabled to use a standard regulator is a positive pressure like an Inspiro.