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see the problem isn't equalizing it even happens when i swim normally in a pool what happened was when I had surgery on my ears they perferated my ear drum and ever since it hurts as soon as i get water in it and i get really sick.
 
Greetings dunkdawg and it would be very wise to heed Jim Lapenta's advice.
You need to seek medical professionals to help with this and it could be not in the diving favor.
I have always considered tubes to be a deal breaker when it comes to diving as Jim has already shared.
I do know one person who had tubes and had them removed who dives.
It is not easy for them but they have learned to deal with the equalization difficulties.

This is very difficult to say but it might not be possible for you to dive.
Please seek out professional medical advice, ENT for the options open to you.
If you get water in your inner ear YOU ARE IN DANGER OF CAUSING SOME REAL DAMAGE!
Ears are a divers cross to bear so to speak, you have to be very careful!
Diving is not like swimming but with increased pressure ATA it compounds pressure on your ears and can be excruciating in some cases.
Good luck and let us know what you find out.

CamG Keep Diving....Keep Training....Keep Learning!
 
see the problem isn't equalizing it even happens when i swim normally in a pool what happened was when I had surgery on my ears they perferated my ear drum and ever since it hurts as soon as i get water in it and i get really sick.

In case you missed it. Check out Doc Pro Plugs and ask your doctor about them.
They're expensive, but they're vented which is the only type of ear plugs you should ever wear to dive. I don't know whether they prevent water from entering the ear, but they may allow less if any.
Let your doctor know you want to dive and if those will allow you to dive safely.
 
Equalizing is not the problem the tubes will allow the air to escape, but they also allow the water to enter in.

I hate to say this but speaking from someone who had tubes when I was younger you will not be able to dive. The tubes will allow water to enter past the eardrum causing the pain and vertigo, especially if the the water is cold. It can also wash bacteria from the water and outer ear in to the inner area causing infections.

That said it may not be out of the question in the future. I had the tubes removed from ears and the eardrums healed allowing me to dive.

Speak to your ENT doctor about your options and don't give up hope. Diving with tubes is like diving with a ruptured eardrum. It will not turn out good.
 
I use the modified version where you try to make the "K" sound with your tongue and forces air into your tubes. works like a charm. I also use the doc pro plugs

1. How do you make a "k" sound with your tongue? I'm looking for alternative methods.

2. Have the Proplugs helped?

Thanks!
 
There are some way's around this maybe not what you would but there are a set of ear covers that go on the googles called the Pro ear Mask. I have never used but have heard they work, typically its too help people with equalization but should also help you but these still have the risk of getting water in and if you 30 or so feet down and it's gets painfull do you want to risk that. It's a less expensive attempt try it in a pool a few times and then gradually work your way down in depth. If you have your own gear go to pool and stay under and move all around try to stay for atleast 30 min mimmicking a dive turning your head, lifting inflator etc..

IST Pro Ear 2000 Two Window Mask

There is another extreme way if you want to dive beyond all go though a class and get a helmet mask. They are expensive and do require some special training to use them but this would eliminate the water in your ears. Unless you had a catastrophic failure. But these masks are typically hooked up to a Surface Supplied air system but I have seen them carry spare tanks with them. I am not sure how these actually work as I have never used them If they can be hooked to a traditional scuba tank and you really wanted to dive this could work for you. Maybe someone with some experince with these masks couls post some more info.

Kirby Morgan Dive Systems | Helmets | SuperLite 17B
 
Sounds like someone wants a dry hood...

Simple. Just buy it.
 
And I meant a hood that really keeps your head completely dry. They do exist. They may cost a bit more. They may need a bit of fitting to make a good seal around the face. And require a small hat inside, so that the hood won't seal the outer ear and cause pressure damage. Used with a drysuit.

Some suits with dryhoods even come in fashionable colors: Sukelluspuku Loitokari
 
A dry hood keeps the water out. The pressure will, of course, be equal to the ambient pressure. Does pressure alone hurt? I would consult a doctor.
 

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