Monterey enacts cold-water drowning procedures for rescue workers.

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THE HERALD'S VIEW Giving victims better chance


Editorial Posted on Tue, Jan. 10, 2006

When diver Mollie Yaley was overcome off San Carlos Beach in 2002, the ambulance crew assigned to save her had at least two strikes against it. First, the paramedic and emergency medical technician both had histories of recreational drug use. Second, they were operating without any formal directive on cold-water drownings.

The paramedic later testified as part of a wrongful-death lawsuit brought by Yaley's family that such a protocol wasn't needed here because the water of Monterey Bay averages 75 degrees. As evidenced by the wet suits worn by divers and surfers, he was some 20 degrees off.

Just this month, as a result of the Yaley lawsuit, Monterey County's Office of Emergency Medical Services has enacted cold-water drowning procedures for rescue workers. It's hard to assess whether Yaley would have survived if the protocols had been in place then, but it's a safe bet they will save other lives.

The late-arriving ambulance team declared Yaley dead on the beach and stopped CPR without consulting a physician. After an emergency room doctor ordered lifesaving efforts to resume, she was revived, and she held on for several days. A key component of the new protocol is a medical maxim: "The cold-water drowning/near-drowning victim is not dead until he/she is warm and dead..."

The protocol goes on to prescribe exactly how paramedics should assess and transport the patient. It says, "Initiate transport as soon as possible," which would have been great advice on San Carlos Beach that day.

Yaley's parents settled the lawsuit shortly before trial last year and received a small financial award from the county or the county's primary ambulance provider, American Medical Response, which has since been replaced by another company. The parents said the lawsuit wasn't about money; it was about saving lives. They did the right thing by taking it to court and, now, the county has done the right thing, too.​
 
sounds to me like the medics in question were unaware on procedures (at best) or grossly incompetent. as an EMT it is standard procedure that a body is not dead untill it is WARM and dead (unless there are multipul patients, in which case treage procedures may force you to treat patients who can be treated). Add into that hypothermia procedures, and the fact that hypothermia causes hypocardia, slower reflexes, and hypoperfusion (shock), as the body shuts itself down to preserve it's core temp. into the core areas of the body. When rewarmed, "life" can be restored (in some cases). standard procedures for drowning victims (as I was taught) includes hypothermia procedures to rewarm the body before declaring a patient dead.
Assuming the water tempature was 75 degrees? that was just ludicris! Whoever stated that has not ever been in the pacific ocean!! Also even at 75 degrees, the body is subjected to hypothermia, the medic should have known this (espeacially there where, I would presume, all EMS personell have proficient training and experience with drowning procedures). I can't fathom how the medic, or EMT could have overlooked any of these procedures. unless it was a multipull drowning and there were too many patients, not enough ems personell (where treage indicates you save the ones still alive) this should never have happened.
I'm glad they have official procedures in place now, but they shouldn't have been necessary. If the medics at the call were aware of the local conditions (i.e. water temp.), they would've known hypothermia was an issue, and acted accordingly.
 
There was only one victim.

What the article didn't say was that not only did the ambulence crew have a history of drug use,
one of them admitted they used heroin that day.

And I thought SOP was that you don't quit trying until a doctor tells you to quit.
 
Depending on the county protocols a paramedic can declare (not pronounce) a person dead with out consulting an MD prior to declaring. It is common practice to transport all cold water cardiac arrest/drowning patients unless there are other obvious signs of death, decapitation, incineration, eviceration etc. It is hard to believe that there wasn't a cold water drowning protocol or at least a mention of it in the drowning section of the protocols that all paramedics and ems workers work under. Most rivers, lakes, and oceans in California have the potential for hypothermia, as evident by all the kids and other people shivering even in the middle of the summer when they stay in the water too long. It sounds like this ems crew had gross negligence. I have been a paramedic for years and have always transported the cold water drowning patients.
 
cfsdiver18:
Depending on the county protocols a paramedic can declare (not pronounce) a person dead with out consulting an MD prior to declaring. It is common practice to transport all cold water cardiac arrest/drowning patients unless there are other obvious signs of death, decapitation, incineration, eviceration etc. It is hard to believe that there wasn't a cold water drowning protocol or at least a mention of it in the drowning section of the protocols that all paramedics and ems workers work under. Most rivers, lakes, and oceans in California have the potential for hypothermia, as evident by all the kids and other people shivering even in the middle of the summer when they stay in the water too long. It sounds like this ems crew had gross negligence. I have been a paramedic for years and have always transported the cold water drowning patients.

couldn't have said it better! I was out of town and haven't been able to reply for a few days. It might be prudent to note however, that most media do not appreciate (or understand) the difference between "declare" and "pronounce" and often get these terms confused, making thier reports somewhat inaccurate (only a doctor can pronounce a pat. dead).
 
lonerider00:
couldn't have said it better! I was out of town and haven't been able to reply for a few days. It might be prudent to note however, that most media do not appreciate (or understand) the difference between "declare" and "pronounce" and often get these terms confused, making thier reports somewhat inaccurate (only a doctor can pronounce a pat. dead).


Yes that is soo true, the media seems to think that declare and pronounce are interchangeable. They are not. It would be nice if the media used the correct terminology so their reports were more accurate.
 

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