ambientdiving
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there is 24 of them for sale on ebay without tanks and i was thinking of buying one does anyone know how much it costs to upgrade from jurgensen ??
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ambientdiving:
AD,
I am not saying that this is so in this case, but too often re-breathers offered on E-Bay are just scams. Be very suspicious and careful. :11:
AFAIK the HAMMERHEAD control system is now 3000 USD.
Good luck!
Rob Davie
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ambientdiving
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BigJetDriver69:AD,
I am not saying that this is so in this case, but too often re-breathers offered on E-Bay are just scams. Be very suspicious and careful.
i know i fell in one a while back so now i´m not taking any chancesis there anyone who dives it who know of anything i can ask him (no. of unit, parts etc) the item no. is 7143343398 if anyone wants to take a look
thanks any help is apreciated
caveseeker7
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Usually I'd be very conspicious about anyone offering two dozend MK15s, but the pictures, offered payments and feedback on the seller are ecouraging.
As he only sells/ships within the US you should be able to pick it up in person (probably need to because lack of CE, anyway) which is the way to go with such an item. Ideally you would want to have someone along that knows the MK15.
The main consideration for any CCR1000 and derivative is that they are fairly complex units, professional support is rare usually expensive, as are spare parts and supplies. Some items are almost impossible to come by (e.g. diaphram).
Even if or especially if these units have never been used it doesn't mean they are new. Just unused. Every part, including all the seals, are around 15 years old and more likely than not need replacement.
Two years ago a board member, Todd, purchased an unused MK15 which was undiveable in the condition he received it. Not a scratch on it, a perfect museum piece, but it took a lot of work from Pete Ready at Steam Machines and quite a bit of money from the owner to get him in the water.
He posted his endevour in this thread , from his initial purchase to finally getting certified. Quite an experience.
Stefan
As he only sells/ships within the US you should be able to pick it up in person (probably need to because lack of CE, anyway) which is the way to go with such an item. Ideally you would want to have someone along that knows the MK15.
The main consideration for any CCR1000 and derivative is that they are fairly complex units, professional support is rare usually expensive, as are spare parts and supplies. Some items are almost impossible to come by (e.g. diaphram).
Even if or especially if these units have never been used it doesn't mean they are new. Just unused. Every part, including all the seals, are around 15 years old and more likely than not need replacement.
Two years ago a board member, Todd, purchased an unused MK15 which was undiveable in the condition he received it. Not a scratch on it, a perfect museum piece, but it took a lot of work from Pete Ready at Steam Machines and quite a bit of money from the owner to get him in the water.
He posted his endevour in this thread , from his initial purchase to finally getting certified. Quite an experience.
Stefan
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ambientdiving
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He posted his endevour in this thread , from his initial purchase to finally getting certified. Quite an experience.
Stefan[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the post it made me think of all the problems i may encounter and help is far far away i could probaly buy a meg or prism instead for the same price as shipping and taxes for all the spares and extras
Stefan[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the post it made me think of all the problems i may encounter and help is far far away i could probaly buy a meg or prism instead for the same price as shipping and taxes for all the spares and extras
caveseeker7
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The MK series are very well designed, and if you have a fully equipped workshop and know how to use it they'll last a long time.ambientdiving:Thanks for the post it made me think of all the problems i may encounter and help is far far away i could probaly buy a meg or prism instead for the same price as shipping and taxes for all the spares and extras
Either Meg or PRISM should serve you well, either one is considerably easier to maintain and prep for diving. Either one will have better electronics than a stock MK15, have better WOB and hydrostatics, and use tanks that are easily available, filled and checked. Same for the regulators, they are off the shelf items unlike the stock MKs.
My guess is that in the long run either will save you money. As you can see in the other thread, ISC is planning to persue CE certification for the Meg this year, for SMI and the PRISM it probably won't happen until next year.
That should take any hassles out of buying the units, and likely lead to instructors in Europe.
Pricewise Megs are anywhere between $7,500 and around $10,000 depending on the options, the PRISM sells for $7,800 plus $200odd for the cowling.
Even if you can buy one of the MK15 for less, you'll need at least new electronics, most likely the $3,000 Hammerhead, plus a pair of spheres which can be quite expensive, even used.
I would love to have a new MK15 from a collector's point of view, they were benchmarks and I admire the engineering. But for diving, especially as an only unit, I much rather have either a Meg or PRISM. Personal preference, of course, but that's how I see it.
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