Lessons Minor Cenote Incident - Lessons to be Learned

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I’ve seen new divers try to get themselves killed in a quarry due to poor training and lack of attention.

There’s no way new divers should be in an overhead environment, even if it is “cavern”.

And there were sections of Chac Mool I definitely felt were dark enough they stretched the definition of cavern diving. Especially the section leading to the air dome.
 
FWIW - I'm not very familiar with the cave diving community in general nor the various agencies in Mexico. I made an incorrect assumption that CREER was not an actual certifying agency but functioned more like an advisory group recommending best practices.
Yeah so they are not like PADI or TDI, you don't need anything from them if you just want to come and dive MX caves (assuming certified etc).

But, they are trying to give more structure for MX cave diving like publishing best practices, guidelines, maintaining the lines etc. They also try to popularize "visitor cave pass" Cave Pass – CREER with one of the ideas being to take off any potential liability from the cenote owners by having a "local" document saying that such and such is a trained cave diver, he knows the risks etc. So if someone does drown, the owners won't get hammered by the police and decide to shut down their cenote for all cave divers.

Again, you aren't required to have that cave pass at all. Its still something creer is working with cenote owners to adopt. Maybe @Lanny knows how widely used is it?
 
I just did the Chac Mool Cenote with Tank-Ha out of Playa Del Carmen and our guide did a very detailed plan with us and even discussed a separation plan if it were to happen. I agree with everyone here that Cenote diving is not for newbies. If you're going to dive in an overhead environment you should be very comfortable under the water, have better than average buoyancy skills, and also be comfortable with low visibility (darkness). Although Cenotes are very clear there are several places that can be dark and when you are going through the halocline there is a pretty good stretch that is so blurry someone could get lost if they panicked or couldn't keep track of their group. Our guide was in front and I followed up the rear in a group of four. You are going through Chac Mool single file. The guy in front of me was the least experienced of our group which was why he was sandwiched in the middle and you could tell he was a little nervous at times but overall did great. After the dive he said he couldn't see the person in front of him while we were going through the halocline and he was nervous a bit but he just stayed with the line and kept moving forward. Besides there is no way I would have just let him just wander off. Chac Mool is not a big Cenote and if the diver gets lost I can't see how they couldn't find their way out as long as they stay calm. The key in most of these dive Emergencies is that the diver is NOT staying calm.
 
Zero to Hero. The last place for a new diver should be a cenote cavern.
OMG!! As a diver who got certified in 1989 but didn't dive again until last year (and I only did two dives back then) I would never even consider diving in a cenote! What are people thinking???
 
I’ve seen new divers try to get themselves killed in a quarry due to poor training and lack of attention.

There’s no way new divers should be in an overhead environment, even if it is “cavern”.

And there were sections of Chac Mool I definitely felt were dark enough they stretched the definition of cavern diving. Especially the section leading to the air dome.
My sister in law was on the floating dock at the quarry in PA (maybe 26 feet down? I got certified there 35 years ago so I don't remember exactly) where we all used to go get certified and when she was asked to remove her mask and replace it, she freaked and blasted to the surface. She is lucky she didn't harm her lungs!
Cenote diving sounds like nothing a new diver should do.
 
While you will get varying responses on this board about who should be allowed or not allowed to do Cenote dives, I think we have learned a few things from this now year-old thread:

1. You're correct in that Cenote/Cave/Cavern diving is not an activity inexperienced or newly minted divers should be engaging in.
2. For ANY diver engaging in a guided Cenote dive, paying attention to the briefing and following the dive plan is critical.
3. Some dive operators in PDC were and may still be taking inexperienced divers to the Cenotes. From some of the posts we saw in this thread, however, it sounds like for everyone's safety the standards for these tours may be elevating. Hopefully this will reduce the number of incidents like this one going forward.

As with any tour, you may have some individual guides that are more strict and some more loose with the rules, and you don't always know who you're going wind up with. Some are more observant, some are less careful. Hopefully some of these standards will elevate their game and help mitigate careless behavior. While there is always room for individual fault, I believe choosing a respected operator can help reduce the chance of winding up with a sloppy guide and a poor experience.
 
The overhead environment isn't for everyone.
The guy that wasn't paying attention to HIS Guide and lost site of him - could easily been distracted by the beauty of a cavern dive. Not saying that was the correct thing for him to do. Everything worked out ok for him and he learnt a BIG lesson. Now his wife is unhappy with him and he loves what he just saw. My first overhead was Ice diving. The second was Dos Ojos. I knew in the first 10 seconds of being in the water at Dos Ojos this this is what I am meant to do. Spent the money on gear and high level training with a highly regarded shop in Tulum. We all begin somewhere.
 
OMG!! As a diver who got certified in 1989 but didn't dive again (and I only did two dives back then) I would never even consider diving in a cenote! What are people thinking???
They don't know what they don't know, and are doing "trust me dives." Those details can kill when things go sideways, especially in an environment where they might not be able to pop to the surface without obstruction or visual references. With full disclosure, I did a lot of cave diving without formal training or certification in the 60's, but with great caution and very conservative diving. Looking back six decades, I fully understand I was just lucky having only two high "pucker factor" situations.
 
I recently witnessed a diver getting separated from his group in Cenote Chac-Mool in Playa Del Carmen. The incident was resolved quickly and without anyone being lost or hurt, but there are some lessons to be learned. Unknown what dive op the separated diver was with, so I can't speak to who his guide was or what operator had responsibility for this incident. I was with a guide named Felipe with Cenote Xperience who assisted in resolution of the incident and I'm happy to report all went well. Details below.

First off, a huge credit to Felipe, our guide. He gave us detailed, clear instructions during the briefing on how were going to operate the dive, what we were going to see, what he was expecting of us, what could go wrong, and what we were going to do if things did go wrong. While he wasn't trying to scare anyone, he certainly injected a level of seriousness and a touch of fear of what could go wrong and how none of us wanted that.

Once on the dive, he had just led my son and I to the Air Dome inside of Cenote Chac-Mool. After spending some time there, examining the beauty of that cavern, chatting, and joking around, we started to descend and head back. There's a fairly large cavern that you have to transit to get to the Air Dome, maybe 40 feet or so across I'd guess, and as we were leaving the air dome behind on the right side of this large room, another group was heading toward the air dome on our left. There were only three of us in our group, Felipe leading, my son in the middle, and I was at the back. I wasn't counting the number in the other group, however, but I fully witnessed one of their divers get distracted and separated from his group, and come across the room toward us. I watched that diver realize he was lost and speed toward the closest set of flashlights he saw, which was us, with Felipe at the front. When he sees that Felipe is not his dive guide, his eyes got huge which told me that panic had just set in. He makes the sign that he's headed out and and boom! takes off by himself. Felipe booked it after him and grabbed him and stopped him, knowing that if this guy makes one wrong turn he could get lost and then we'd have a real problem. As per the briefing he gave us the signs that were changing the order of divers and that we were heading out. We then calmly headed to the nearest exit. In my mind: diver secure, everyone safe, emergency averted.

Felipe on the other hand is still time-critical problem solving. He asks the diver who his guide is. Diver gives him the name, to which Felipe responds "Okay, I know him, he's probably having a heart attack right now knowing that he's missing a diver." Felipe needed to find the other guide and let him know, which wouldn't be hard since we knew exactly where they were. He tells the three of us to stay put, and not leave under any circumstances, and then he turns to me, pointing at our found diver, and says, "He doesn't go anywhere, you understand?" "Got it Felipe, we will be here."

While Felipe was gone, the diver was still a little tense, considering he was panicked and lost in a cave less than 5 minutes ago. I introduced myself and my son, calmed him a little bit with some conversation, asked him where he was from, "Originally Boston, but I just recently moved to Florida." How long have you been diving? "I just got certified! This is my first dive trip." Yup, that makes sense. "That's great! Isn't it beautiful here?" etc.

A few minutes later Felipe and the other dive group return. While the other dive guide was greatly relieved to see his lost diver, it was the WIFE of that diver that was a real mess. Swinging between tremendous relief, then a little anger at him, but then joy that he was okay. Having reunited the group it was time for Felipe, my son and I to continue on our own tour and back to our own exit.

Felipe and I had a lengthy discussion about this later, but there are a few lessons here. First, Felipe told me that while he knew the other dive guide and they were friends, he could guarantee that the briefing the other group received was not as detailed about expectations, dive plan, or contingency as his was. While the importance of a good dive briefing, dive plan, and contingency is always important in a situation like this, Felipe's technique of injecting a little fear there to underscore the importance of that briefing prodded us as divers to listen up and pay attention. While our lost diver in this story could well have been one of those "special" clients that doesn't follow instructions, or maybe was just distracted during the briefing, a really solid briefing with clear instructions and contingency plans could probably have avoided this situation completely.

A lesson for me was that just because we got that diver out, the emergency wasn't necessarily over, since Felipe needed to go get that other guide's attention to let him know what was up. Something to think about in other similar lost diver situations.

Who was Felipe with? What dive op? Contact info? I might be headed down in March
 

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