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Hi thanks for the tips, right now I'm debating between a sony cx700 with a gate housing wich would come out to about 3000-3500 but it would be new with guarantee and everything.
Otherwise I got this deal second hand a Light and Motion housing with a retro fitted back plate LCD monitor, Sony A1-U camcorder and multiple standard, wide angle and macro ports. Also included is a Fathoms WA port which sells for $1800 just by itself. Selling the complete system for $2600 plus shipping.
I am still looking into the gopro3 but no one really has any reviews about it for the underwater performance but I do like the camera a lot I would equip it with this tray and maybe some better lights
http://www.amazon.com/BigBlue-Underwater-Contour-Camcorder-included/dp/B0088QA5VW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_p_5

What do you guys think?
L&M makes a quality electronic housing - I almost bought one before I bought my Amphibico. Total maintenance cost/downtime on my housing since 2004 - zero. (except for rotating the o-rings periodically) I do between 25-100 dives/yr. and it goes on every dive.

One thing about the A1U is that it's an older model and tape based so your video capture during editing will all be in real time - i.e. 30mins. of video capture takes 30 minutes to transfer. The advantage to the CX700 is that it's flash memory based storage so it transfers video much faster - it becomes an external drive transferring at USB 2.0 speed. Huge time saving during editing. Assuming you need to edit/produce a DVD fast - I wouldn't shoot tape for that reason.

Also you can store 10's of hours of footage on the CX700 at one of several HD resolutions - the A1U uses 60min. HDV/DV tapes - 40 min. if you shoot in DVCAM.

And it also doesn't have an HDMI output, they weren't available on prosumer camcorders then. You still get HD output thru the Component output - or to your computer via iLink - Sony's version of Firewire. And all the Audio XLR stuff has to be removed so it fits in the housing - so that's only useful on surface shoots.

While I can appreciate the image quality of the GoPro for the price, there are times when having the ability to zoom is nice. Sometimes you can't just get closer. Also without the Bacpac framing is just a best guess. There's also a workflow with the GoPro that (I believe) requires the use of their free CinePro program to convert video - IDK the details but I gather it's needed to edit with some editors.
 
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Vince, If I were making the choice between the two I'd go with the Gates/CX700. It may cost more than the used system you have mentioned but you're buying the latest and greatest instead of something many years old. Also, L&M has this offer on their website:

LIGHT & MOTION || Bluefin Housing + Fathom 80 Lens

There are four different camcorders you can buy for this system and you should have no problem at all finding used ones for maybe half the price of a new one. You can add lights at any time in the future as your budget allows.

I would keep looking thru the classified sections both here and on wetpixel. Even fairly new stuff can be bought pretty cheap. Folks buy this stuff, use it maybe a year or so, and then move on to the next thing. The may pay $5000 or more for it new and will be lucky if they can get half that when they try and sell it and most of the time they won't get half. The value of this kind of equipment just doesn't hold up.

With the way everything is changing and so many cameras can now shoot great quality video, I won't be surprised to see a company like L&M stop making camcorder housings altogether. It looks like they are now down to one model.

But back to your choices, the Gates/Sony system is the way to go. It would be a no brainer for me.
 
No problem. If you have any questions or concerns regarding things that I might not have covered in the reviews, feel free to contact me. Clicking on my name next to 'Review by' should bring up my email address.

Now for a little plug...if anyone would like to join me and a very small group for a resort based dive trip to Anilao, Philippines in late Feb. Let me know. This is the least expensive trip I have ever led and am deliberately keeping the group small. I'm tired of leading 20 people at a time so I am downsizing a bit.

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Take an older model Sony FX-1 or A1-U or Z1, which are all tape based cams, and they will completely outshoot in terms of color resolution, contrast, and overall quality of footage any of these 'latest and greatest' tiny little Canon and Sony cams that shoot in a highly compressed AVCHD inter based format.
Yes, there is a certain convenience to a card based cam, but the process of naming and logging into your editing NLE programs, if done right, is still the same boring process it always was.
Not too long ago I was given a brand new L & M housing for one of these tiny cams. I was sent the Canon cam from a production house and after one use, sent the camcorder back and gave the housing away. The quality of resolution simply wasn't there.
For underwater work, these small cams are convenient in terms of traveling size and weight, but they are notoriously poor in low light situations which is what underwater work is and their iris's have difficulty finding contrast which is all important.
Also, their tiny size and weight make holding a steady shot topside near impossible unless you have a very good tripod.
A good shooter, when making a film, also needs to shoot topside clips for establishing shots and interview work. None of these tiny cams have the audio capture abilities that a good XLR equipped cam has. This is another fact that is very well known in the industry. The audio on them is horrendous so having the ability to use XLR inputs for audio is extremely important to any professional or hobbyist with aspirations to create a quality film. I have been a judge for many film festivals and been to many as well. I have also been lucky and fortunate enough to have won many film competitions. People will put up with less than stellar video but will walk when there is poor audio.
For these reasons, I would have to say that BDSC is all wet (no pun intended) when it comes to his reasoning for getting 'the latest and greatest'.
I have a good friend who moved to Hawaii a couple of years ago. He is still using his tape based Sony FX-1 and just sold a ton of footage to some research group on the big island. At $70.00 per second, he made a small fortune for he and his wife. The FX-1 came out at the exact same time as the A1-U and Z1-U. I myself have sold an awful lot of footage over the years using the A1-U which I could not have done with these tiny little palm camcorders. They are fine for shooting a birthday party or making a 'Look what I did on my vacation' video, but for serious shooting, I'd take a good tape based cam over these tiny things any day of the year. This is not to say that the card based cams like the Sony EX-1 or 3, or the Panasonic cams shooting to P2 cards or the Red One are not fantastic cams that will blow most any system out of the water if you know how to use them properly, but they are frightfully expensive and the housings for them are triple the cost of the cam itself.
I just bought a Zildjian A cymbal for my drum kit. It is 30 years old. Maybe I shouldn't have bought it because it is not brand new....BUT it sounds sooo good. Isn't that what is important? Quality counts.
 

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