LGBTQ Divers?

[BVickery]

I actually tend to agree with you about "hate crime" laws but I think I may be in the minority amongst the LGBT folks in that view. I don't want special treatment for anyone no matter what the reason. I just want equal treatment for everyone. Despite some of the over-the-top exercises like hate-crime laws, LGBT are a long way from equal treatment in too many ways. I do believe once we get closer to that equality you're likely to see some of the more extreme "minority support" laws like hate-crimes start to disappear if not off the books at least in practice.

Knowing how gov't works, I doubt it. And the fact that the LGBT community is so overwhelmingly in favor of them, turns their plight off to MANY people. Your asking for equality, yet you have a special status that makes you unequal to the ones your seeking to get equality from. A lot of people I know DESPISE double standards. I can call you a slur for being gay and I am looking at tons of legal fees, jail, fines etc. You call me a gay slur for being heterosexual, odds are nothing will happen. There was a savage beating about a year ago, and fit the bill perfectly for a hate crime, as there was concrete evidence the attack was racially based and they could be seen as shouting rascist terms at the victim. Well, they were charged normally because the victim was white and the assailants black. If it was the other way around, and even less evidence, they would have been charged with hate crimes.

Glad we agree that if you want equality to come, you have to say BS when there is inequality that is in your favor.

 

[jmasin]

What can I say, I'm in my 30's and tired of all the BS trying to splinter society into more and more groups. I don't use the political correct terms for races anymore because frankly, when dealing with others who live around me, I just see them as American. Whether they are gay, straight, bi, black, white, asian, jewish, cahtolic, wiccan, atheist or whatever. I think that Political Correctness has done more harm than good because it sets up more 'us vs. them' fights than to bring people together and have them accepted for who/what they are.

Cheers to that.

Dude, if you're ever in DFW let me know, I got a beer comin' your way on me.

 

[ccx2]

Wow, diving is complicated enough without having to worry if I give them the wrong impression with the funny face I might give them because they have a four inch snot streak across there face they dont know about after a dive.
Maybe it would be best for all if they do have there own club so we can get back to diving and having fun and no worries.

 

[Sas]

The human mind can only stand so much drastic change before it shuts down and pretty much resists it.

What is your evidence for this?

And forcing/telling people they MUST accept you for what you are is why large amounts of people tend to shun your groups. People are people and demanding aspects of their private/personal lives starts getting you adversaries instead of allies. And first hand I can tell you I am the type of person 'those groups' try to avoid just because I am labeled as a 'conservative'.

Who is saying anything about that? I do not care if individuals accept me or not, just whether I have equal rights under law as everyone else. In the USA that is far from the case for LGBT people. You're completely missing the point. And until someone's sexuality is not even considered interesting, I can see why people want to hang out with people who are like them.

 

[Jax]

And until someone's sexuality is not even considered interesting, . . .

Oh, puh-LEASE! Sexuality will ALWAYS be interesting. The point is that once doesn't have to FLAUNT it! hbrother:

 

[Sas]

Oh, puh-LEASE! Sexuality will ALWAYS be interesting. The point is that once doesn't have to FLAUNT it! hbrother:

Actually I find monogamous heterosexuality quite boring.

 

[Jax]

Actually I find monogamous heterosexuality quite boring.

:snicker: Perhaps you could add some new tricks to your repertoire?

 

[ccx2]

This whole thread has filled me with anxiety and guilt that i am a White Heterosexual Male trapped in the mind of a Lesbian with transgender thoughts. Should i not continue to dive for fear of insulting or hurting the feelings of someone of a different club of a gender or sexuality that isnt the same as mine so as not to confuse them?

 

[Dr Wu]

I can call you a slur for being gay and I am looking at tons of legal fees, jail, fines etc.

Show me a case where someone went to jail for using a "slur".

How about one where "tons of legal fees" were paid?

What sort of fines exist for calling another person a name?

I am truly curious.

 

[freewillie]

Actually I find monogamous heterosexuality quite boring.

A great lover isn't one who can make love to a thousand different women, a great lover can make love to the same women a thousand different ways.

You need to spice things up!