Let The Revolution Begin (Part Two)

[GDI]

Part One is a good thread I can see lots of feedback. On this thread, list the skills in order of what you think should be instructed in a basic OW class. Perhaps list your priority.

Example Pool Session One
Swim Test (200 meters w/o aids, tread water 10 min last two no hands, 10lb weight buddy team work, 25 meters u/w swim no push off)
Setting Up of the Scuba Unit
Communications
Water Entry
Basic Snorkeling Technigues*
Finning Techniques* (*without scuba unit)
Weighting (preliminary)
Predive Safety checks
BCD Function and Operation
Descending and Equalization
Breathing on the Reg
Clearing the Reg
Recovery of the Reg
Mask Removal and Replacement
Achieving Neutral Buoyancy (Hover 30 seconds)
Trimming and Body Control While Neutral
Ascending
Cramp Removal
Assisting Injured Diver: Surface
Playtime for Student to Practice ( Awareness for buddy)
Weighting (secondary - tank is at lower psi)
Achieving Neutral Buoyancy (Hover 60 seconds)
Review of all skills while maintaining neutral buoyancy and trim
Ascend
Deep Water exit
Tear Down of Scuba Unit
Rinsing and Maintenance of Scuba Unit/Equipment

Pool Session Two

Set Up Scuba Unit w/o assistance
Predive Safety Checks
Water Entry
Descend and Equalize
Achieve Neutral Buoyancy
Review Skills from Session One While Maintaning Neutral and Trim
Ascend (discussion)
Descend
Alternate Air Source Deployment
Buddy Breathing
Air Depletion Experience
Free Flow with Ascent
CESA
BCD Removal and Replacement Surface
Weight System Remove and Replace
Weight Deployment (Simulate Drop)
BCD Removal and Replacement Subsurface
Weight System Removal and Replacement Subsurface
Weight Deployment (Simulate Drop)
Achieve Neutral and Trim
Review Skills from Session Two While Neutral and Trimmed
Student Practise ( awareness for buddy and air supply)
Surface With a Injured Diver
Exit Water
Tear Down Scuba Unit
Maintenance of Scuba Unit and Equipment

Third Pool Session

Set Up Scuba Unit
Predive Safety
Water Entry
Review while neutral and trimmed all previous skills sessions
Valve manipulation
Compass Basics
Low Viz Experience
Exercise Thinking Diver Emergency Problem Solving**
(** Simulate in a reaistic format:lost mask, broken fin strap, lost fin, loss reg, slipping tank bands, OOA, loss buddy, free flow/broken hose, loss weight, injured/panic diver/awareness, Repeat same under simulated Low Viz )
Fine Tune Trim and Buoyancy
Ascend Simulating Safety Stop
Exit Water
Tear Down Scuba Unit
Maintenance of Equipment

 

[Walter]

Haven't we done this elsewhere?

Only 3 pool sessions? I don't introduce SCUBA until the 3rd session.

 

[GDI]

Haven't we done this elsewhere?

Only 3 pool sessions? I don't introduce SCUBA until the 3rd session.

We may have tried this before? My pool sessions are usually 3-4 hours each and I add sessions as needed

 

[Walter]

I thought this was a revolution, looks like the same old quick and dirty to me.

 

[fgray1]

We may have tried this before? My pool sessions are usually 3-4 hours each and I add sessions as needed

I've been there with him. He has also been know to do 1 on 1 for those special student who needs the extra help as well as letting you come back for refresher sessions if needed.

Fred

 

[Leadhead]

Why the 25 meter underwater swim. I know it is part of many agencies swim test but I personally can't understand the reason for it.

 

[fgray1]

Haven't we done this elsewhere?

Only 3 pool sessions? I don't introduce SCUBA until the 3rd session.

Of how you conduct it. If you don't introduce scuba till the 3rd session what do you do the first couple of sessions?
Fred

 

[rab]

If you don't introduce scuba till the 3rd session what do you do the first couple of sessions?
Fred

I think the first session in the pool gives the instructor a chance to observe how comfortable each student is in the water. My first session we didn't leave the 3ft. part of the pool until the very end and just learned how the equipment worked (inflate/deflate, SPG, etc.). No skills at all (no demonstration that is).

I also wonder about the 25m underwater swim. Is this a way of determining cardio-vascular fitness? If you can do 25m, you must be reasonably fit?

Actually, I was surprised that 200yds w/ no equipment (mask/fins/snorkel) is "PADI equivalent" to 300yds with equipment. Except for the time that it takes in a small pool (only four could reasonably fit across the pool), I'd think both would be reasonable.

Pool session 1 seems verrry long with more than a few students (per instructor at least).

 

[GDI]

I thought this was a revolution, looks like the same old quick and dirty to me.

Nothing quick and dirty about it. There are no new scuba skills just different standards. Where is your teaching order?

 

[GDI]

I think the first session in the pool gives the instructor a chance to observe how comfortable each student is in the water. My first session we didn't leave the 3ft. part of the pool until the very end and just learned how the equipment worked (inflate/deflate, SPG, etc.). No skills at all (no demonstration that is).

I also wonder about the 25m underwater swim. Is this a way of determining cardio-vascular fitness? If you can do 25m, you must be reasonably fit?

Actually, I was surprised that 200yds w/ no equipment (mask/fins/snorkel) is "PADI equivalent" to 300yds with equipment. Except for the time that it takes in a small pool (only four could reasonably fit across the pool), I'd think both would be reasonable.

Pool session 1 seems verrry long with more than a few students (per instructor at least).

25 meter swim is a way of confirming VO2 status
The swim test is 200 meters thats a little further than 200 yds.
I keep my classes to a small instructor to student ratios. I have done larger classes but then I will take the time to work the quality with each student personally if required.
As some of you have noticed this is similar to PADI and even some other agencies,but only similar. The standards I expect may make the difference. Now put up your programs lets compare and improve ourselves