Why don't you all move this on, rather than argue over semantics?
From my perspective, I'm very disallousioned with PADI, I should get around to rescue, but I switched to BSAC (joining a club with BSAC Instructors, rather than a concerted decision)
I still maintain with all the training agencies (although happy to be corrected) that it's too easy to go from one cert to another. I don't want to deprive anyone of training, but feel strongly that their should be a period of consolidation to put what you've learned into practice. Let's say 20 logged hrs underwater as a number. Let's face it who left OW with good buoyancy and trim? Yet they allow people to go straight to AOW get a card and be no further along with their skills. That person could go to Indonesia on that cert, dive currents with a DM far beyond their achieved skill level, at best scare the crap out of themselves, at worse...
in some ways I like BSAC where sports diver (AOW) build on everything you learn at the basic level and adds more skills (like smb deployment). You may disagree on the need to get into deco diving early like BSAC but, heck why not?They even teach some rescue straight off the bat. I understand however that PADI rescue is more complete but that's a different matter.
Anyway as as a challenge ....
If YOU could design a course where you had 3 levels under Pro, what would you teach in each
How many dives for the course, how many hours
How much time/dives if any between courses,
Any other caveats? Ie should training in a quarry allow you to do the next step in an ocean without further experience?
over to you
From my perspective, I'm very disallousioned with PADI, I should get around to rescue, but I switched to BSAC (joining a club with BSAC Instructors, rather than a concerted decision)
I still maintain with all the training agencies (although happy to be corrected) that it's too easy to go from one cert to another. I don't want to deprive anyone of training, but feel strongly that their should be a period of consolidation to put what you've learned into practice. Let's say 20 logged hrs underwater as a number. Let's face it who left OW with good buoyancy and trim? Yet they allow people to go straight to AOW get a card and be no further along with their skills. That person could go to Indonesia on that cert, dive currents with a DM far beyond their achieved skill level, at best scare the crap out of themselves, at worse...
in some ways I like BSAC where sports diver (AOW) build on everything you learn at the basic level and adds more skills (like smb deployment). You may disagree on the need to get into deco diving early like BSAC but, heck why not?They even teach some rescue straight off the bat. I understand however that PADI rescue is more complete but that's a different matter.
Anyway as as a challenge ....
If YOU could design a course where you had 3 levels under Pro, what would you teach in each
How many dives for the course, how many hours
How much time/dives if any between courses,
Any other caveats? Ie should training in a quarry allow you to do the next step in an ocean without further experience?
over to you