Is 130 ft too deep?

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MikeFerrara:
You misunderstand. It has nothing to do with what I deem safe. It has to do with what the individual diver is schooled, skilled and prepared for.

And just how do you end up their by accident? Assumiong a the dive was within their cpabilities in the forst place of course?

Good point. The first few were while I was assisting with another instructors classes. The last few have been divers who were trained that way but not in training at the time.

You're free to your opinion and I'll admit that it definately made a lasting impression on me.

Not for "some reason". How does this happen?

BS. My stand on this will have the diver develope the skills before getting in this situation in the first place. Instructors teach overweighted students on the bottom and we end up with all this silly talk about divers going to 160 ft on accident.

How likely is this controled ascent you mention if the diver doesn't have enough control over their position in the water to avoid ending up at 160 in the first place?

You say, they should use up most of their remaining gas at a safety stop? How much gas will they have available for this?
How much gas does their buddy have available for it? What make you think that either will have any to spare if they can't avoid ending up at 160?

You mean no one who was on your dives died right?

Well it sure sounds like you're endorsing diving beyond ones training and experience for a thrill. I just pointed out that I think that's irresponsible talk for an instructor who was trained to set a good example.

This is funny. What is it that you think I haven't done...A deep dive or a deep dive on air not having any idea how I'm going to get back?

By all means if you have a question about my experience that my profile doesn't answer, feel free to ask.

I surrender. I, Hank Bauman, hereby admit that I was crazy and irresponsible for promoting diving beyond 40 meters on air and that if you choose to do so you will die. How's that Mike?
 
Hank49:
I surrender. I, Hank Bauman, hereby admit that I was crazy and irresponsible for promoting diving beyond 40 meters on air and that if you choose to do so you will die. How's that Mike?

How is it? It's sarcastic and off topic. We weren't debating gas selection were we?

I certainly never said that diving beyond 40 meters would get a diver killed.

I thought the topic was trust-me dives?

I did say that I think doing so without appropriate training and/or experience might be a bad idea.
 
PS. Your magazine is broken.[/QUOTE:
Dam, I had better call all 20,000 of my readers and tell them and my advertisers.



But, I've done my job here by providing conversation, debate, and editorial for the patrons of the Scubaboard to be intertained with this "is 130 ft to deep" thread. Over 6,300 hits. (high score)

Remember, this is an open forum and we incourage different opinions to step forwards and voice their thoughts.

Thanks for participating, It was fun.

The truth is, I would not take a diver with only 30 or less dives to 160 feet, but I did stir the pot. :-)

Now, onto the next thread. this one is worn out. :-)

Love you all and safe diving. LOL
 
Curt Bowen:
PS. Your magazine is broken.[/QUOTE:
Dam, I had better call all 20,000 of my readers and tell them and my advertisers.

It wasn't a comment on your content. Your website is actually down. I just thought you might want to know.

Terry
 
Web Monkey:
It wasn't a comment on your content. Your website is actually down. I just thought you might want to know.

Terry

Yes, I know. The main server is located in Tampa Florida where the eye of the Hurricane went through last night and today.

I live south of Tampa and am surprised I still have power with the 80 MPH winds I got yesterday.

Now all we are getting is 35 mph winds and around a foot or so of rain.
 
MikeFerrara:
How is it? It's sarcastic and off topic. We weren't debating gas selection were we?

I certainly never said that diving beyond 40 meters would get a diver killed.

I thought the topic was trust-me dives?

I did say that I think doing so without appropriate training and/or experience might be a bad idea.

Let's just drop it Mike. You got my temper flared a bit, which is a stupid waste of time, with your "we call them butt plugs" comment....that's all. It appeared to me to be very condescending, like you are "THE MAN" in diving and were never a newb. Peace, I don't want to argue any more. Hank
 
Hank49:
Let's just drop it Mike. You got my temper flared a bit, which is a stupid waste of time, with your "we call them butt plugs" comment....that's all. It appeared to me to be very condescending, like you are "THE MAN" in diving and were never a newb. Peace, I don't want to argue any more. Hank

Sorry. I didn't mean to make you mad.
 
Well I'm glad we've got that settled. I think this thread has pretty much run it's course now.

James
 
Curt Bowen:
But, I've done my job here by providing conversation, debate, and editorial for the patrons of the Scubaboard to be intertained with this "is 130 ft to deep" thread. Over 6,300 hits. (high score)

Is that your job?
Remember, this is an open forum and we incourage different opinions to step forwards and voice their thoughts.

Thanks for participating, It was fun.

Troll? LOL
The truth is, I would not take a diver with only 30 or less dives to 160 feet, but I did stir the pot. :-)

Now you tell me. I was just about to take a bunch of local new divers to 160 just to see if I could do it too.

If Curts doing it then it must be the thing to do.
 
[/QUOTE]=Now you tell me. I was just about to take a bunch of local new divers to 160 just to see if I could do it too.

If Curts doing it then it must be the thing to do.[/QUOTE]


Go ahead, I wont tell on you. Have fun
 
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