Is 130 ft too deep?

[wedivebc]

My question is, what does she do at 160' when her "trust me" guide has a heart attack?

I think that you should never dive in a situation where you can't take care of yourself by yourself. Even though the guide may be a "pro" the unexpected can happen to all of us.

Thinking that you are immune from the unexpected due to your experience and education level is when you become truly dangerous IMNSHO.

Mark

So I guess I should not fly in a plane untill I learn to land it by myself in case the pilot should have a heart attack?

 

[mweitz]

And now you know the answer to the age old question, "Why are there always two pilots on commercial flights". And no, I wouldn't fly commercial with one pilot if I couldn't land the plane myself.

And I didn't say that about planes. I didn't allude to that in other areas of life. There is a substantial difference between diving and other activities.

BTW, this certainly applies to a lot of things. Driving is one that comes to mind (not flying though, for the reason stated above). There is a big difference between going 70 on the freeway when the driver has a heart attack and being 160' below the surface of the water and not being able to see what is going on very well and communicate with the other diver. There are no "seat belts" or "airbags" at 160'.

Mark

 

[scubacoz22]

actually the original plan was to dive to 200 feet as everyone in the group agreed on... i started to feel a little narked and stopped at 160, several of the other divers did go down to 200. I was not comfortable with that so stayed at 160, was only there for 5 minutes when my high pressure hose blew. I am just glad my husband was with me to buddy breathe. Once the DM got to me i started buddy breathing with her. I know we should of gone up but I followed what she did since i was sharing air with her. I will never agree to this again that is for sure ( this was about 6 years ago) . We had been diving all week and had done several dives below 100 ft. That 160 for me was the first and last time. BTW i use very little air and usually come up with over 1500 psi when everyone else is at 500. Kathy

 

[scubacoz22]

My question is, what does she do at 160' when her "trust me" guide has a heart attack?

I think that you should never dive in a situation where you can't take care of yourself by yourself. Even though the guide may be a "pro" the unexpected can happen to all of us.

Thinking that you are immune from the unexpected due to your experience and education level is when you become truly dangerous IMNSHO.

Mark

I can tell you exactly what i would of done i NEVER dive with just one other person, there were 6 other people in the group and there was plenty of air available. And this was done at the very beginning of the dive so no one was low on air. So if the DM had had a heart attack i could of used her air, and i had pleanty of other buddies to share air with. NOT to say I will ever be doing a dive at 160 ft again as it was scarey when that high pressure hose blew. That was the last thing i expected but was very thankful that I had plenty of buddys there to help me out with air. Kathy

 

[android]

Probably more like 99.9%. Dive accidents happen primarily on the surface or from 10 meters up.

Where'd you come up with this?

I thought the most recent DAN incident report indicated the most DCS and fatalities occurred at 60-80ft.

 

[Hank49]

Where'd you come up with this?

I thought the most recent DAN incident report indicated the most DCS and fatalities occurred at 60-80ft.

DCS and fatalities are a small percentage of total dive accidents.

 

[jepuskar]

Mike,

I'm curious as to what diving situation you would find uncomfortable or unqualified for?

 

[MikeFerrara]

"We call them"? I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you're part of an elite dive society who's job is to patronize anyone who dives outside your rules.
While you're at it, put an end to freestyle motocross, Indy cars, sky diving, .....

I'm sorry I should have told you.

The ilite society I belong to is one of divers who have pulled other divers with attitudes like yours (or those who take your advice) from the water sreaming with their eyes bulging from their heads...and like I said they didn't look thrilled or like they were having fun.

Your profile says you're an OWSI? Your "thrill" statement is, to date, the most irresponsible thing I've ever heard an instructor say.

Sorry but I niether know or care anything about motocross, Indy cars or skydiving.

 

[MikeFerrara]

Mike,

I'm curious as to what diving situation you would find uncomfortable or unqualified for?

Me?

There's a few things I can think of right off the top of my head that I would take a step by step approach to.

I haven't done any live boating on wrecks. In this case I'd be more worried about missing the wreck and screwing the dive up for some one else than I would getting hurt but I'd start with some that weren't real deep. Sometimes I tend to descend a little slow.

I'm not real happy in small caves if they're deep.

From a decompression stand point I'm pretty careful about anything that's much deeper or longer than what I've done before. You just don't know what'll bend you until you try it.

I crap bricks every time I have to make a half a dozen trips up a mountain (real big hill) hauling gear after a deep dive.

I've also gotten kind of gun shy when it comes to teaching or supervising especially if it's some one I don't know real well (in the water). People want to go too fast and any more I'd rather just dive.

 

[GreenDiverDown]

...Sorry but I niether know or care anything about motocross, Indy cars or skydiving.

You don't care about Indy cars...shame on you! What do you do on that last Sunday in May? Don't dare tell me that you go diving...you...uh...uh...you hoosier!