TONY CHANEY
Contributor
As I posted on CDF:
---------- Post added January 5th, 2014 at 02:29 PM ----------
I see your very valid point. I dislike nanny government but there are times when rules and regulations need to enforced. I feel that everyone has certain liberties. Ever wonder why the father and son chose to dive Little River and Eagles Nest? My guess is because these two sites are the easiest to gain access to with few people around and no one to enforce who dives there and who doesn't.
If somebody wants to play a round of golf in lighting storm then I am OK with that. Their decision has nothing to do with me. But, if somebody wants to do a cave dive, deep dive wreck, ice dive without the proper equipment ot training then I have a problem with that. Golfer dies and it really has very little impact on the sport. But a dive in the enviroments above require other divers risking their life performing the resuce. If you think that a remote dive site, in a cave and very deep is hard try doing it while bringing out a body! Also the regulations increase and the chance that the dive site will be closed. The Grandfather already wants EN closed and it was off limits for a few years before due to deaths. That is just my take on the situation.
I truly believe that we, as a very concerned community, are approaching these deaths in the wrong manner. Why are we trying to remove ourselves from these two deaths and not embracing them? This is the best time to promote training and not discussing if it was a cave diving accident or open water accident. It happened while diving in a cave so it is a cave diving accident. Nothing more nothing less. I equally feel that we can take these deaths and use then to show what can go wrong without proper training. For example: 1) You need to be trained to scuba dive and the son was not trained. 2) It was a deep dive requiring decompression of which neither had training for. 3) It was a very deep dive and the use of trimix needed of which neither had training for. 4) It was a cave dive and neither had training for.
At this time, more than ever we have the media on our side and the world listening. This is the time to reach as many people as possible and we are losing that chance each and every day. I, personally, have never had as many friends, love ones, coworkers etc. asking me questions pertaining to the sport I love.
At this time, more than ever we have the media on our side and the world listening. This is the time to reach as many people as possible and we are losing that chance each and every day. I, personally, have never had as many friends, love ones, coworkers etc. asking me questions pertaining to the sport I love.
---------- Post added January 5th, 2014 at 02:29 PM ----------
...One of the contentions that has come up involves whether we should 'let' people retain such personal liberty that they can (despite signs & other public education efforts) continue to make their own (adult) decisions to do foolish, dangerous things that may get them killed...
...or whether there should be more regulation, some sort of licensing system, and people could even check for some kind of permit displayed on the vehicle and 'call the authorities/police' if it were absent.
It's my subjective impression that gianaameri tended to have the latter view, whereas a number of us have had the former.
So now gianaameri posts about having chosen to make a cave dive. Granted, cave certified and far more knowledgeable and experienced about the matter at hand, but still a cave dive that...
...some other people consider ill-advised and that should not have been done! Why, there are probably some people in this world that would have put a stop to that if they could have.
And so, once again, do you want liberty, or do you want Big Brother telling you what to do, even if under the latter system your statistical likelihood of longer life expectancy is higher?
Richard.
I see your very valid point. I dislike nanny government but there are times when rules and regulations need to enforced. I feel that everyone has certain liberties. Ever wonder why the father and son chose to dive Little River and Eagles Nest? My guess is because these two sites are the easiest to gain access to with few people around and no one to enforce who dives there and who doesn't.
If somebody wants to play a round of golf in lighting storm then I am OK with that. Their decision has nothing to do with me. But, if somebody wants to do a cave dive, deep dive wreck, ice dive without the proper equipment ot training then I have a problem with that. Golfer dies and it really has very little impact on the sport. But a dive in the enviroments above require other divers risking their life performing the resuce. If you think that a remote dive site, in a cave and very deep is hard try doing it while bringing out a body! Also the regulations increase and the chance that the dive site will be closed. The Grandfather already wants EN closed and it was off limits for a few years before due to deaths. That is just my take on the situation.