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Gary D.

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This was just sent to me to post and the poster wishes to remain anonymous.

Gary D.
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I live in a small community and last year opened a dive shop. There is a "dive team" that consists of members of the city FD (on city payroll). I have come to realize that they are simply firefighters that have ow certification and they believe they are PSD's. They do take calls as first responders and have 12 divers that work for the FD. They have 4 sets of city gear and all divers have their own equipment.

I have been on a S&R dive team in the past (and now know how silly that was). Although I was/am an instructor at the time we were still recreational divers and our dive plan was simply what kind of search pattern were we going to run.

My issue with the city here is how best to approach them as I feel that SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET HURT.
A couple of weeks ago one of the two captains contacted me about doing vis and hydro inspections for them. During the discussion I asked about their training. He stated that they "don't train that much, just enough to stay current" 3 or 4 dives a year. These dives are held in rock quarries that have 20 - 75 foot of vis. The local waters - rivers, small ponds - here have vis of 5 foot at best. The captain stated that he liked to keep a list of active divers in the area and if they don't have four divers from the FD to go out he will call one of the divers from his list. I asked about blackwater training and they have not done that nor do they have a desire to. I offered to run some skills in the pool - blackout masks - and again they weren't interested. Call came to an end and the captain asked if he could add me to his list of active divers. I let him know that I would be available to go as surface support but I would not dive with them unless I had trained with them.

My goal is to get at least one of them to attend DRI training, held in August 100 miles from here.

Being that ya'll work in the field and I don't how can I let them know that what they are doing is dangerous?
Do I forward the safety training invitations that are sent to the store? Do I "push" my way in and train with these guys and then approach the subject? I have thought about becoming part of their "team" simply so I could attend DRI training.
 
I wouldn't touch that with a 10' pole. 3 or 4 dives a year in conditions unlike what they'll be responding to, and calling ad hoc recreational divers as needed? Recipe for disaster.
 
Yeah, that team is an accident waiting to happen. If there is a real PSD team in the area (regional or state) maybe it would be a good idea to call them up to arrange a multi-unit training opportunity so these yahoos can see what a real team looks like and maybe realize how bad they are. If you've been invited to participate in the team, the best position to make changes from is the inside. Get in,try to get them safe, if they won't take constructive advice you can always quit, knowing that at least you tried.
 
tough one Gary. This sounds like ALLOT of teams unfortunately... Seeing how the shop owner doesn't know PSD either it would be difficult for him to credibly point out their shortcomings. If if he could it sounds like his point of view would not be heard uless solicited - he could end up making things worse as FFs can be a stubborn group.

Try to foster change from within. I'd suggest he get to know the actual divers themselves on a more friendly basis and just ask allot of questions that may point out deficiencies in their own minds.
Also, having the right guy read the right PSD article or text may be all it takes to get the gears spinning (thats all it took for our team). I know that the LGS text is good for that and lots of articles in Fire Engineering magazine may set them on the path. *Get him to pm me for a specific article that I have in mind (its obviously copyrighted so I can't really post it on here).*
I'm sure the other agency texts are just as suitable for this too but they don't seem to be as easy to get as a non-member of that particular agency.
Nobody wants to do things unsafely but they probably don't know what they don't know. Advise caution as he won't be able to ram it down their throats.
Like an adict, if they don't realize they have a problem they won't change. The realization has to come from the divers on this team themselves.

I find it strange that the captain would be looking for other divers to augment his team from the sport diving community. Its almost as if they recognize that they can't perform the task on their own already and maybe they have a team just to say they have it. The trouble will come obviously when they are actually called on as most on here already recognize
 
Sound familar, they are probably a small group of guys that enjoy the prestiege of being the "diver team" (maybe even some sort of extra pay) and they are suposedly saving the city money by using just recreational SCUBA training as the certification requirement. I work for a water district and the same thing is going on here, but from a commercial diving point of view. Good luck making a change before someone floats up dead.

The fire service is 200 years of tridition, never marred by progress.
 
Gary,

This is an article that had a profound effect for may fire department based teams in North America and it was printed in Fire Chief Magazine. I post it her with the permission of the author, Steven Orusa. Because it was written by a chief officer, for chief officers, it carries some validity and hopefully it can have positive results in the right hands. I was glad to see the original poster mention that a DRI class is being offered in August and hopefully that too will have a positive ripple effect.

Blades


"Watery Saves"
By Steven Orusa
Jul 1, 2004 12:00 PM

Public safety diving operations are extremely complex and involve a tremendous amount of risk, but those risks can be eliminated, avoided, shared or mitigated. Because most fire departments don't encounter such operations on a routine basis, they can be categorized as high-risk/low-frequency events. This makes preparation and training even more critical to safety and effectiveness. Most of us do not have enough water rescues or enough of the same type of water rescues to rely on our call volume to prepare us to perform safely and effectively. The same is true for many special operation disciplines.
Risk management is the process of looking into the future, anticipating things that can go wrong and then doing something in the present to prevent them from going wrong in the future. Any risk manager will confirm a systems approach is paramount. From the space shuttle disaster to the E. coli outbreak that affected the beef industry, if we are not using sound risk-management practices, we are gambling with our security.
In public safety operations we use this systems approach in everything we do to ensure the safety and effectiveness of our people. We wouldn't think of sending a firefighter into a house fire without being certified at the basic level, operating at a fire without using the Incident Management System, or not doing a primary survey on a patient. But we put people in harm's way underwater by providing them with training only as recreational divers, despite the necessity and availability of proven and affordable public safety diving systems.

Causes of death

On average, two to three public safety divers perish each year in the United States. If we were to count the drowning of swiftwater rescue personnel, these numbers would at least double. Over a recent three-year period, there were seven public safety diving fatalities: three law enforcement officers, three career firefighters and one volunteer firefighter.
For years, the International Association of Dive Rescue Specialists and Dive Rescue International have gathered information on public safety diving fatalities in an attempt to learn how to prevent these tragedies from occurring. Although they continually monitor and update these statistics, the causes of the accidents for the most part remain the same.
In most cases of a public safety diver fatality, the diver didn't have the proper skill level or equipment for the dive being made. In many instances public safety dive — specific training and operational systems were not in place. Despite having had capability minimums outlined since 1999 in NFPA 1670, Operations and Training for Technical Rescue Incidents, we are still losing public safety divers to the same mistakes year after year.
In about 15% of fatalities, entanglements led to the accident. The lack of proper equipment also contributed to several accidents. Complete equipment failure was rare and did not appear to be the cause of any of the fatalities; however, poor equipment maintenance did contribute to some accidents.
Heart attacks accounted for several of the deaths and were suspected in others, but due to incomplete autopsies following in-water fatalities, the primary cause of death was assumed to be a drowning. It is difficult to determine if these fatalities could have been prevented with an occupational medical examination, although proper physical conditioning could have prevented several of them.
Inadequate SCUBA skills may be the leading cause of public safety diver accidents. In many cases, a problem developed that the diver was unable to solve due to a low basic skill level. In most cases, divers had received either insufficient or non-existent SCUBA skills refresher training after initial certification. Even experienced divers and instructors broke many basic safety rules and made mistakes that were difficult for them to solve.
Early program resources

It's important to note that 86% of the fatalities occurred in recovery mode or training and only 14% in rescue mode. Statistical data gathered over the last four decades supports the fact that we must make some changes to keep divers out of harm's way underwater. Inadequate skills can be offset only by training, which can be difficult to provide in-house when taking on an infrequent response type like dive rescue.
In other special operation disciplines, the fire service has relied on outside programs to help us get started. For example, in the early 1980s when we formally recognized a need for vertical rescue, our first resource was the recreational climbing community. During the research and development of fire service vertical rescue programs, however, we discovered that while we could learn valuable lessons from the recreational climbing community, its members didn't address all our public safety rescue needs. While recreational climbing is challenging and involves risk, it was not the complete answer to our challenge.
From that collaboration evolved specific equipment, knowledge and skills to meet our public safety needs. Over the years we have continuously improved our safety and effectiveness by applying lessons learned through sharing our operational experiences. Additionally, conferences and outside training opportunities keep us abreast of changes in equipment and techniques. Without these relationships we might still be using hemp rope for rescue operations.
In the aforementioned challenge the recreational community was a basic resource for the evolution of safe and effective techniques to meet the needs of public safety. They were a piece of the puzzle but not the entire solution. In much the same way, we have learned and continue to learn from the recreational diving community. But we can't rely solely on them to meet our public safety diving needs.

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Beyond recreation

Recreational diving agencies provide safe and effective dive training to the general public. The business model of a recreational SCUBA agency is to teach the client to have fun underwater. But John Q. Public is not performing dives in zero visibility, dives with prolonged bottom times, dives with entanglement hazards, dives requiring heavy physical exertion, or dives at all times of the day and night in extreme weather conditions. That's public safety diving!
Many people have recreational instructor certifications and are teaching their own flavor of diving within the public safety community. Many of our colleagues are recreational dive instructors. In an effort to provide safe and effective public safety dive training, they create or borrow diving techniques from the recreational dive industry and attempt to adapt them to meet the public safety dive needs in their communities.
It is important to note that their recreational teaching outline, which they author, is submitted to their recreational agency but is not evaluated by a public safety diving professional. To my knowledge, there is currently no recreational dive agency that employs a public safety diving professional on their staff. Because of recent fatalities, some recreational agencies have considered revoking such programs from their recreational instructors. Simply stated, the dollars generated from providing public safety dive training are dwarfed by the revenue from recreational instruction, not to mention the increased liability associated with teaching public safety personnel to dive in hostile environments. It isn't difficult to understand why a recreational agency wouldn't want to take that chance.
The intention of these recreational instructors is honorable, and they do an excellent job within the constraints of their respective programs. Nevertheless, there is too much at stake to allow for anything other than the safety of our divers to be paramount. Fire and rescue agencies need to continually strive to make all operations safer by preventing the situations that have historically led to tragedy.
Proper education

Throughout NFPA 1006, Rescue Technician Professional Qualifications, and 1670, Operations and Training for Technical Rescue Incidents, hazard analysis and risk assessment are addressed. One of the most hazardous events a diver can encounter is not being able to solve problems or make decisions underwater.
The typical chain of events in a public safety diving accident is as follows:
• Diver becomes cold and/or tired.
• Diver's stress level, which is already high under such circumstances, increases.
• Diver encounters a hard-to-solve problem or makes a mistake.
• Diver panics.
• Diver is seriously injured or dies.
Managing risk includes mandatory continuing education and skills documentation programs. We must have a systems approach to manage the risk our divers face every time they are operational underwater. If specific systems aren't implemented, the potential for disaster is imminent. There is overwhelming documentation that provides evidence of serious safety concerns when relying solely on recreational training for public safety dive teams.
To alleviate such concerns, training should be provided by a certifying agency that offers the following:
Public safety diving — specific training standards define the degree of excellence of any training program. They are the principles by which the quality of the program is judged. The benchmarks for instruction, equipment, safety, documentation, skill maintenance and conduct must be clearly defined and address the distinctive needs of public safety diving.
Public safety diving — specific curriculum provides clearly defined objectives for each classroom, pool and open-water training session. In some accidents, recreational instructors teaching public safety diving changed training exercises to meet their needs and not the realistic needs of their students. This put the students in a no-win situation with tragic results. A training system with a public safety dive — specific curriculum prevents this from happening.
The curriculum should be developed through years of experience in public safety diving and observations of what does and does not work in the field. The job-specific dive training should be realistic, practical and controlled in a safe environment. The program should reinforce learning through variety as well as repetition, and it should require problem-solving, decision-making and crisis aptitude underwater.
Instruction must be tailored to solve specific problems presented to agencies by their respective water environments. A basic program should include areas such as line tender skills; scene management; risk/benefit analysis; witness interviews; vehicle-in-the-water accidents; and selecting, equipping and training the dive rescue specialist.
Converting a department from recovery to rescue mode capacity, training and equipping personnel for underwater investigations, and assisting departments in development and management of a new dive team should rank among a training agency's achievements. The agency should provide in writing that its training is
NFPA-compliant.
Models for standard operating procedures and diving operations manuals. The agency should be a resource for SOP templates from safe and effective public safety dive teams. It should also provide assistance in conducting a water rescue needs assessment for your community and developing public safety diving operations manuals to meet those needs. The agency should have in place programs identifying the functional requirements for creating a basic rescue team or a highly technical rescue team.
Instructors with operational experience. The instructors must be experienced members of a public safety dive team. While recreational instructors and dive shop owners may have good intentions, they do not have the experience or skill level to provide credible public safety diver training programs. In many public safety diving accidents, experienced recreational divers and instructors drowned.
Affordable instructor/trainer programs. Initial training and recertification programs must make good financial sense for the department. No fire department should be held hostage by a certifying agency. Programs should be available to empower the department to control the majority of the training with their own qualified personnel. This is a prudent use of resources and develops team leadership.
Current references. The certifying agency should gladly provide you with a list of other public safety dive teams that use their system. Take the time to check these references. This tool provides valuable insight into the credibility of the program. For example, some agencies have included in their reference list the names of public safety organizations whose personnel have attended a seminar or sought information. There is a big difference between seeking information and trusting an agency to meet the training needs of your organization. A few phone calls can be priceless.

Continued training

With all of these factors in mind, you also should research successful teams throughout the country and use them as a resource. Who do they trust to provide them with a safe and effective public safety dive training system?
Once the dive training program is established, fire and rescue departments must mandate continuing education/skills maintenance as part of the certification program. We have lost public safety divers who had not been in the water for years between the time of their initial certifications and the incidents where they lost their lives. The public safety diver certification must be contingent on the fact that every diver has regularly demonstrated a proficiency level necessary to function safely. We have mandatory continuing education programs in EMS to ensure quality patient care but no mandatory skills maintenance programs to keep our public safety divers safe.
To put it bluntly, if we don't use it, we lose it. Not having the skills necessary to solve problems and make decisions underwater has proved fatal. Being a good public safety diver two years ago doesn't mean you'll function safely and effectively today. Skill levels, if not reinforced, deteriorate over time. You can't crack your mask to take a breath at any depth. We do not have the luxury or the flexibility to be 99% efficient underwater. Mandatory skill checks at 100% efficiency are the answer.
Implementing a public safety dive — specific training system with all the aforementioned components will contribute to the prevention of injuries and loss of rescue personnel in the line of duty. If we are going to commit our people to an underwater environment, we ethically, morally and legally have a duty to prepare them to be effective public safety divers. There is no greater responsibility than safety.
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A 19-year fire service veteran, Steven Orusa is the deputy fire chief for the Waukegan (Ill.) Fire Department and a corporate trainer for Dive Rescue International. A member of International Association of Dive Rescue Specialists and Illinois USAR TF-1, Orusa has chaired the Illinois Office of the State Fire Marshal Water Rescue Committee and is a past team leader for the Lake County Specialized Response Dive Rescue Team as well as a former Trident Foundation mission specialist. He has a bachelor of science in law enforcement administration and is completing a master of science in human resource management. The Waukegan Fire Department was the first fire department dive rescue team in the country to receive national accreditation.
Document retrieved from lhttp://firechief.com/mag/firefighting_watery_saves/index.html
Copyright 2004 Prism Business Media
Originally published in FireChief Magazine
 
Thanks Blades. The OP is watching this and hopefully he can get your info to the powers to be. But then there are the hard headed ones who have the “It won’t happen to me: attitudes.

Thanks again

Gary D.
 
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