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mattwood2000

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Hi everybody, got my C-card 4 years ago, but due to some complications i just got it recently...anyway, planning on equiping myself and I have been doing some research and wanted to know what anyone thought about some things. I trained on a BC, but have been very intrigued by a backplate/wings. I saw some posts on it, but still cant make up my mind. I will be renting and trying a bc/w next saturday to see how I like it. Also, I'm pretty much sold on the Oceanic Pro Plus 2 (air integrated) computer and would like to know anybody's input on that model. Anyway, any input would be appreciated, thanks. Matt.
 
It's an excellent idea to try to the BP/W before buying one.....actually, it's an excellent idea to try ANY equipment before you buy it.

My husband dives with a Pro+2 computer and loves it.
 
Matt,

This topic might fit better in the diving equipment forums. If you go to the BC forum, you will see that almost 50% of the topics are asking questions about bp/w rigs.

There is no substitute for trying something out yourself. Only you can decide what is comfortable for you. I think renting the equipment would be a great way to see if you personally like the gear. Many people like bp/w setups for rec diving, while others prefer a BC for rec diving and only use their bp/w for tech.

As far as the computer goes, I recall reading something about the USB connection being crappy on the pro plus 2, but I don't have the computer so I don't know. Do some research in the computers forum and you'll learn more than you ever wanted to about any computer on the market.

JR
 
Welcome to the board.

A BP/wing IS a BC. So many people seem to get this confused. There are 2 basic kinds of BC's in use to day, the jacket style (the air bladder surrounds the diver to some extent) and the back inflate (all of the bladder is in the rear). The BP/wing is a member of the back inflate family but certainly not the only one. Many manufacuteres make other models of back inflates- Zeagle, Scubapro just to name a couple. There are those of us who much prefer a back inflate over a jacket style but at the same time don't care for the BP/wing.
 
Before you buy gear, and it is a good idea to dive it first if you can, define your purpose in diving so that you don't buy gear that you replace within a year.

For example, are you diving warm or cold water? That will to an extent determine your exposure suit and tank types. Will you be looking for long bottom times? If so that may determine computer types, i.e. Nitrox as well as air diving modes.

Will you dive year round? Might want either a 7mm wetsuit or drysuit depending on the warm/cold water reference above.

Will you be getting into wrecks or caves?

You can see that many of these basic things determine what you buy and to be honest I had no interest in wrecks until after 6 months of diving and some of what I bought will not work well in that environment and I purchased new to replace it.

I know what I want to do in diving now and my config reflects it, I've yet to get the certs for it and I will, but I wanted to get the proper gear first and then dive it to get used to it before I take the classes. You have enough workload in the class that the addition of diving unfamiliar gear is not a great idea.

Of course I had no idea this is what I wanted to do and just wanted to dive in the beginning. I did and had fun, but now I have an extra jacket style BC I don't use and I sold my AL 80's because I went steel. I didn't lose money on the deal, but you can see it took longer to get here.

So, define what you want first before you buy much gear. Consider the future in those purchases you make now, a Nitrox computer is a much better choice now as it will do most things you need.

Have fun and remember that those that own their own gear normally dive more often, rent what you don't have of course.

If you can dive it, find a DSS BP/W and try them out. Great rig, and of course there are many many others like it.
 
Regarding the BC. What are your plans?

If you intend to be a single cylinder recreational diver it is entirely personal preference.

If doubles or technical specialties are in your future go directly to a plate and wings.

For single tank recreational diving the BC (regardless of format) will not make the diver but poor fit will ruin the diver. Find something with a feature set you like and make sure it fits. Preferably with a test dive in open water as you are planning.

The computer...
In concept I don't see the point of air integrated. For the $$ I'll use the computer between my ears as integration.

Pete
 
I just did my first dives with a Sherwood Wisdom integrated computer and I loved it. I really balked at the cost of it and I still try not to think about that but doing it this way allowed me to have my standard guage unit as a backup when I travel. I tried a wrist computer first and had a difficult time with it (I got screwed on eBay--my fault and a long story to go with it). I like having the quick response and not having to try to write in the log and run the dive table/wheel while I'm still dripping wet trying to get all the details because after I see the 6 ft. moray on the 2nd dive, I've forgotten everything from the 1st dive. I also know that I'll have this computer for a very long time and it will pay for itself in time, IMHO.
 
Ok, thanks everybody for the input. I'm gonig to try out the backplate and wings before I buy anything. I'm also checking out the Suunto Cobra computer which seems really good. I guess I'll just have to do a few test dives and see what is for me before I make any purchases. Thanks again for everybody's input. Matt.
 
25 years ago it was all so much simpler: Horsecollar BC.:D

I'd recommend in addition to receiving feedback here, go check out your local divespot and see what folks are using. Those divers can be a great source of unbiased information.

Rap
 

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