I’m never using a BC again!

[tarponchik]

Here is a detailed review of sea urchins removal as the means to kelp restoration. Somehow, spawning of urchins as a side-effect of culling is never mentioned.

 

[tarponchik]

It's even rougher here in North Florida. No urchins, but we gots gators in our Springs.

I did a couple or dives in Florida springs but I've never seen a gator nearby. Isn't 70-74 F too cold for them?

 

[The Chairman]

Somehow, spawning of urchins as a side-effect of culling is never mentioned.

It's a defense mode of many simpler marine organisms. The Japanese fishermen when they first encountered giant jellyfish would pulverize them before letting them remains wash over into the ocean, making sure that there would be bazillions more of these creatures to contend with later on. Think of the mythical hydra. Cut one head off and two more grow back to replace it, only much, much worse.

 

[The Chairman]

I did a couple or dives in Florida springs but I've never seen a gator nearby. Isn't 70-74 F too cold for them?

There's a five footer that used to hang out near P1 at Peacock Springs all the time. Gators avoid humans, so popular springs and spring runs usually never have an issue. Usually. I was teaching an OW class in Alexander Springs, back in my kneeling days and a little 4 footer settled down in the middle of the circle. There were a lot of bubbles blown that day. I just kept them doing skills until we finished. It takes an 8 footer or better to mess with humans.

 

[tarponchik]

It's a defense mode of many simpler marine organisms. The Japanese fishermen when they first encountered giant jellyfish would pulverize them before letting them remains wash over into the ocean, making sure that there would be bazillions more of these creatures to contend with later on. Think of the mythical hydra. Cut one head off and two more grow back to replace it, only much, much worse.

Yeah, I've seen starfish growing back whole from a cut-off arm. But sea urchins get eaten by fish instantly when their tests ate broken.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

Here is a detailed review of sea urchins removal as the means to kelp restoration. Somehow, spawning of urchins as a side-effect of culling is never mentioned.

I can’t argue about this anymore.
WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED BY LAW TO REMOVE PURPLE URCHINS, NOT CULL!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??
I DO NOT WRITE THE RULES, I CAN ONLY FOLLOW THE LAWS AND WORK WITHIN THE SET DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE RULES FOR REMOVAL.
I do not want a ticket and have to go to court to defend myself for doing something stupid. I do not have a chip on my shoulder about it either.
If you want to argue with them and write letters, show up and be a rogue violator that bucks the law go ahead. I’m not doing it, and no amount of arguing is going to change that.
I’ll give you some phone numbers to call and some email addresses, take it up with them not me.

BTW, congratulations you just made my ignore list,
Have a great day!

 

[Boarderguy]

Thanks but I am pretty sold on rental tanks. I'm on Kaua'i and it is so easy to just grab a tank and go. I dive almost every day so dealing with fills is too painful.

Not to derail the conversation at all but if you're diving daily then you're wasting a lot of money. Tank fill is about $10, rental per day is $20 last time I was there. In less than a month you've essentially spent enough extra for 1 tank. Get yourself 2-3 tanks and you can just drop one off and take the other with you. Get a fleet of 4+ and you can take 2 with you daily while the other two are getting filled. You also don't ever need to be concerned with returning them on time...

 

[tarponchik]

I can’t argue about this anymore.
WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED BY LAW TO REMOVE PURPLE URCHINS, NOT CULL!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??
I DO NOT WRITE THE RULES, I CAN ONLY FOLLOW THE LAWS AND WORK WITHIN THE SET DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE RULES FOR REMOVAL.
I do not want a ticket and have to go to court to defend myself for doing something stupid. I do not have a chip on my shoulder about it either.
If you want to argue with them and write letters, show up and be a rogue violator that bucks the law go ahead. I’m not doing it, and no amount of arguing is going to change that.
I’ll give you some phone numbers to call and some email addresses, take it up with them not me.

BTW, congratulations you just made my ignore list,
Have a great day!

Whatever, but I am curious, where did you get this idea about sea urchins accidental spawning during culling? Was this your own suggestion or someone told you that?

 

[Rick Brant]

Whatever, but I am curious, where did you get this idea about sea urchins accidental spawning during culling? Was this your own suggestion or someone told you that?

Ugh.

 

[Rick Brant]

Not to derail the conversation at all but if you're diving daily then you're wasting a lot of money. Tank fill is about $10, rental per day is $20 last time I was there. In less than a month you've essentially spent enough extra for 1 tank. Get yourself 2-3 tanks and you can just drop one off and take the other with you. Get a fleet of 4+ and you can take 2 with you daily while the other two are getting filled. You also don't ever need to be concerned with returning them on time...

Rentals are $10 for residents, I think fills are a couple bucks less. I get free tanks pretty often too as I work with a local shop occasionally. I actually do own a tank but rentals are very convenient and not that much more $$.