Identification - Octopus and Ray

[DiverBuoy]

Is this a two-spot octo or "juvenile" pacific?

Also is this a round ray, thornback ray, or pacific skate? (sorry no strobe, overcast, 10 foot of visibility, very grainy and green)

Round, Thornback, or Skate?

Thanks in advance.

 

[darylm74]

Doesn't matter, please put him down. I wished people wouldn't touch so much. I work at the Pittsburgh zoo and have lots of opportunities to touch animals and I avoid them at all cost. Don't want them to die based upon the dieseases I could transmit to them. I was so happy the zebra shark finally made it back in but was sad to see some of the eels were gone.

 

[DiverBuoy]

Doesn't matter, please put him down. I wished people wouldn't touch so much. I work at the Pittsburgh zoo and have lots of opportunities to touch animals and I avoid them at all cost. Don't want them to die based upon the dieseases I could transmit to them. I was so happy the zebra shark finally made it back in but was sad to see some of the eels were gone.

Yeah yeah ... stick to the subject please or stay off the thread. This is not an ethics thread, this little guy crawled onto our hand.

 

[divinman]

Small two spot. you can just make out the spot under the eye.

Thorn back ray.

Terry

 

[DiverBuoy]

Woot thanks, that's what I said and 3 different people argued I was wrong, any second opinions on this?

 

[maractwin]

Looks like Octopus bimaculatus.

-Mark