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Going for anything other than PADI to start with will be an economic mistake. PADI instructors are two a penny, that is why they get work. Being SSI doesnt make you a better instructor. Being a good instructor comes from you. Its about being a people person, and no amount of training from PADI, or SSI or BSAC will ever give you that.
Check out both Bent Posejpal & Bjorn Tackmann. They are top quality Course Directors with an excellent reputation. and both are lovely guys.
Then go for it ... good luck, its fun, bloody hard work, but a whole heap of fun!
Check out both Bent Posejpal & Bjorn Tackmann. They are top quality Course Directors with an excellent reputation. and both are lovely guys.
Then go for it ... good luck, its fun, bloody hard work, but a whole heap of fun!
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Yes, there is no such thing as a bad underwater training organization - however there are both good and bad Instructors in all the organizations. As for PADI we find that there is a demand for these courses here on Phuket.
There are a couple of SSI training center's being developed on Phuket - if this route is your choice then contact Instructor Trainer Simon Speight at Ocean Lovers on Phuket. He is also a PADI Instructor (and has been for many year's). So this shows that offering both organizations can work for some.
As a PADI Course Director - Bent Posejpal from Siam dive n Sail is great, definitely a big thumbs up!!!
There are a couple of SSI training center's being developed on Phuket - if this route is your choice then contact Instructor Trainer Simon Speight at Ocean Lovers on Phuket. He is also a PADI Instructor (and has been for many year's). So this shows that offering both organizations can work for some.
As a PADI Course Director - Bent Posejpal from Siam dive n Sail is great, definitely a big thumbs up!!!
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I may be wrong, but doesn't SSI require an instructor to be attached to a Dive Shop in order to certify anyone? so, for any SSI instructor course to state that they have 100% employment is kind of a moot point. As any of their graduates must be employed by a Dive Shop in order to utilise their SSI instructorship. . . .
in any case, i agree with the above posts that the agency does not make the instructor. although i believe that a PADI certificate does give an instructor the most flexibility in employment options.
Cheers,
JE
in any case, i agree with the above posts that the agency does not make the instructor. although i believe that a PADI certificate does give an instructor the most flexibility in employment options.
Cheers,
JE
Think you are right about SSI Instructors having to be attached to an SSI shop, I have never met any NAUI / SSI instructors out here that aren't PADI Instructors also. Another strong consideration for IDCs here in Phuket / Phi Phi is www.indepth-instruction.com (Course Director is British guy called Chris, he has a massively high % success rate on Phuket and recommended by lots of people I know)
As a clue, one of the most useful skills you can learn as a diving instructor is the ability to learn another language.
As a single language instructor(if it is English) you will limit your abilities to teach what you want, which is courses that you make money on.
However saying that, persistance pays as well, and I pestered Dive Asia for nearly three weeks before they gave me a job, and within a month I was employed full-time teaching and guiding.
I only speak English and it shows that if I can do it, and I am an English english speaker, then you can too.
If you have a choice of learning a language though, it will help if you throw yourself into it.
I would rank the following languages as important in the S.E. Asian environment (after English) if you get a chance to learn one of them ... DO IT!
1) German
2) Japanese
3) probably Italian/French next
My apologies if this is out of date, but this was what was needed when I was teaching in Thailand.
In the Red Sea, it is
German/French/Russian/Italian
As a single language instructor(if it is English) you will limit your abilities to teach what you want, which is courses that you make money on.
However saying that, persistance pays as well, and I pestered Dive Asia for nearly three weeks before they gave me a job, and within a month I was employed full-time teaching and guiding.
I only speak English and it shows that if I can do it, and I am an English english speaker, then you can too.
If you have a choice of learning a language though, it will help if you throw yourself into it.
I would rank the following languages as important in the S.E. Asian environment (after English) if you get a chance to learn one of them ... DO IT!
1) German
2) Japanese
3) probably Italian/French next
My apologies if this is out of date, but this was what was needed when I was teaching in Thailand.
In the Red Sea, it is
German/French/Russian/Italian
Just wondering if anyone could send me any info regarding this SSI ITC?! I'm looking at doing an IDC (PADI) but would like to know what my options are as i've never really heard about SSI before. I don't think i've ever seen SSI in England, mainly just BSAC and PADI? Anyone done one?? Is it the same as PADI 10-12 days, pretty intensive??
Tony007:
Here's a link to SSI UK and their overview of the ITC.
http://www.ssiuk.com/owi.htm
The SSI ITC is similar to the PADI IDC in length--10 days. About a week is spent learning the SSI system for teaching the SSI Open Water and Stress and Rescue courses. At this point, candidates take the Associate Instructor exam, and if they pass, the Instructor Evaluation. This is a two-day exam which covers both classroom and in-water instruction.
Once you are certified as an SSI Open Water Instructor, you are rated to teach OW and Stress and Rescue courses only. In order to earn the rating of Advanced Open Water Instructor (and teach specialty courses), you need a minimum number of certs (15), plus another ITC course (2 days).
Advanced Open Water Instructors may go on to earn the rating of Dive Control Specialist Instructor (equivalent to instructing PADI Dive Masters). You need a minimum of 30 certs, and a third ITC course (2 days).
This is where SSI ITC and PADI IDC differ most. With PADI, once you finish the IE, you are rated to teach all levels, including AOW and DM. You must go back to the IDC only if you want to become an IDC Staff Instructor.
Once candidates have passed the IE, SSI wants all instructors to be affiliated with an SSI dive shop, although it is possible to apply for exceptional status as a "satellite instructor" (independent instructor). This may or may not impact your work prospects, depending on whether there are many/few SSI facilities with openings for instructors in a region where you'd like to work.
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