I need some help from the masses.

[Gary D.]

I need your help.

If you have a newer vehicle I need you to check the engraving on your “SIDE” windows. If it has “Tempered” on it I don’t need to know. But if it says “Laminated”, something that could mean laminated or something you don’t know what it says I need to know.

If you are a car dealer, work at a dealership or glass shop I need to know which makes and models have anything other than “Tempered” side glass.

I need to know on all vehicles not just US manufactures. Some windows have weird codes on them. If you know what they are please pass it on.

This isn’t a troll or something goofy I’ve dreamed up but a very important issue I working on.

Thanks in advance.

Gary D.

 

[K9trnr]

I'll check the engraving and give you an answer if you let me know how it's related to Scuba.

 

[Jcsgt]

I need your help.

If you have a newer vehicle I need you to check the engraving on your “SIDE” windows. If it has “Tempered” on it I don’t need to know. But if it says “Laminated”, something that could mean laminated or something you don’t know what it says I need to know.

If you are a car dealer, work at a dealership or glass shop I need to know which makes and models have anything other than “Tempered” side glass.

I need to know on all vehicles not just US manufactures. Some windows have weird codes on them. If you know what they are please pass it on.

This isn’t a troll or something goofy I’ve dreamed up but a very important issue I working on.

Thanks in advance.

Gary D.

Different types of window glass break differently underwater?

 

[Diver Dennis]

He is compiling a list of vehicles with laminated windows I believe. As a Public Safety Diver it helps to know the next time he has to extricate someone in a submerged vehicle.
I'll check mine too Gary.

 

[Gary D.]

Sorry I wasn’t clear in my first post.

We have been getting some of the windows kicked out of our newer patrol cars and they aren’t breaking like a side window should. They are holding together and just bending a lot but staying in the frame even after the glass fails.

A couple of nights ago I got to actually see one right after the kick before the shop replaced it. My mouth just dropped. We are now encased in laminated windshield glass.

As far as vehicle security goes this is a great improvement. As far as extrication it isn’t and the problem is compounded many times underwater.

Glass that will help keep crooks out is also going to keep us out and the occupants in.

So we need to develop a new efficient technique to get into these vehicles should they become submerged.

So I need your help to identify the vehicles that have Laminated glass at this point. At first we thought it was going to just be the Ford CVPI but I received information they are going out into the civilian world as well.

Thanks folks.

Gary D.

 

[Web Monkey]

So we need to develop a new efficient technique to get into these vehicles should they become submerged.

That's rough. I don't beleive you're going to be able to do it from the outside without power tools.

Maybe forget the underwater rescue and go down with three big liftbags and a tank, so you can get them out on the surface.

Terry

 

[gangrel441]

Or some submersible form of the jaws of life...

 

[diverrick]

I was not aware that side windows were Laminated. I used to work in EMS and we had to break out the side windows at times, and I never saw on that was laminated. Front windows yes, by law I think. That is a problem as you said, underwater. I'll have to look at my car and see what is printed on the glass.

 

[victor]

Assuming you are police, fire, rescue agency, I don't see why the manufacturers won't tell you.
Write on official looking headed paper and ask, it cannot do any harm.

 

[cfdfirediver]

Are you sure this isn't an option on patrol cars?
If not I would be interested and concerned also!