Horzontal ascents/descents vs. vertical

Do you ascend/descend in a horizontal or a vertical body position?

  • Horizontal

    Votes: 46 50.5%
  • Vertical

    Votes: 12 13.2%
  • Just happy to get down and back so I don't care.

    Votes: 12 13.2%
  • Combination...as I do not want to offend any particular group out there!

    Votes: 21 23.1%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

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I was reading some past posts and was wondering what is the argument for vertical ascents and descents. Can anyone out there help me? Thanks in advance. Not looking for a fight, just a friendly discussion to broaden my understanding of the general diving population out there on the boards!:)
 
If you have problems clearing your ears, a vertical position during descent may be helpful.

I personally have a problem ascending in very low/no vis while horizontal as I get disoriented. I will go vertical in that case.

I see no other reasons to use vertical for either.

Phil
 
I met you when you were teaching Mike's wife at Giloa BTW. I was there for a dive with Mike in preperation for a Lake Superior trip.

Since you are a PADI instructor you know why PADI recommends what they do.

Are you asking for the perceptions of divers or agencies?
 
I descend horizontally, so I can get a clear view of my direction of travel without resorting to a head-down vertical descent. I'm much more reluctant to ascend horizontally, though. It's harder for me to vent my dry suit in that position, and keeping an eye out for surface obstacles is tougher too.

My 2¢.
 
Mike,

I think he wants diver's perceptions for the most part. Unfortunately, I think perceptions also influence a lot of what agencies recommend.

Dan

MikeFerrara once bubbled...
I met you when you were teaching Mike's wife at Giloa BTW. I was there for a dive with Mike in preperation for a Lake Superior trip.

Since you are a PADI instructor you know why PADI recommends what they do.

Are you asking for the perceptions of divers or agencies?
 
Horizontal, way more stable and better vis of where I am going. Also if you dive dry then your only choice.
 
I like to descend head down vertical as fast as I can, then flare and add air to stop just before the bottom or platform. I prefer to ascend horizontally as it is much easier to control the rate of ascent.

Mike
 
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I like to descend head down vertical as fast as I can
Mike

Damn! People who can clear their ears severely annoy me :upset:
 
Hi Mike,
Yes, I remember you from the quarry that day with Christy and Mike. I hope all is well and you had a good holiday!!
What I am trying to do is gather a concensus on what is being practiced out there and why, if they do know why they do what they do or are the just doing what is taught, and hopefully I can use this info to help turn out better divers.
I do indeed know what most PADI instructors practice. I cannot find anywhere in the manual that explicitly says that the diver must be in a vertical position. It does say to swim up and look up while rotating, though. If a diver is doing this while in a horizontal position, well then the instructor is teaching within standards. I find that to ascend or descend horizontally all I have to do, from a horizontal position in the water, is to inhale, skull my fins and lift my chest slightly to begin my ascent. This ascent is easily controlled by exhausting gas from the BC from either the BC inflator/deflator hose and/or the rear dump valve (something I see that a lot of new divers never even touch) and from the amount of drag created by presenting the largest possible presence in the water column in the direction of travel. Ascent is a critical segment of the dive and I would venture to say the segment in which most divers lose control of buoyancy and suffer a lung over expansion injury or DCS. When a diver is in the vertical position, he/she presents the most streamlined presence in the water column in the direction of travel (that is...up and down). This provides the diver with the least amount of speed control during the segment/segments of the dive that a diver needs it most...the ascent and descent. I do not find it difficult at all to look above and extremely easy to look below me while in this position. It also facilitates the fact that if my buddy has a problem during either segments of the dive (ascent or descent) I am in the most favorable position to give a quick kick and be there to render assistance. As to the ear clearing issue, while horizontal, the head and upper neck are still in the same position as a vertical ascent. This seems to be a moot point. Also I have heard Dr's say both positions better facilitate easy ear clearing. I guess it all depends on who you ask...kind of like stats...it all depends on what answer you are looking for...
well, those are just my two cents worth!!;)
 

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