Have you tested positive for COVID?
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Chilly reminder me of the DAN study in another thread so I looked for the link...
DAN Seeks Divers for Study on How COVID Infection Affects Fitness to Dive
DAN COVID-19 Study - Initial Survey
DAN Seeks Divers for Study on How COVID Infection Affects Fitness to Dive
DAN COVID-19 Study - Initial Survey
How about those who are alleging that steps were skipped tell us what steps they're referring to, and then we can debate whether those were important safety measures or unimportant bureaucratic hurdles.
Can't say for sure as I wasn't there watching. But obviously long term side is being skipped. And curious why people with other allergies are having bad reactions so something was skipped there too.
So were pregnant women. So were children. Those typically are studied and reported later, if at all, for most medications.
Came back from a seminar in NYC in mid February, and shortly after felt like hell. This was much before everything went crazy. Never had a fever, but had almost no energy, asthma attack like symptoms, and a cough that lasted like a month. I had a normal physical in that time, and my doctor was indifferent to what I had. Didn't feel I should do anything about it. Pretty sure I had it, but it was so long ago, I hear the antibody testing likely will not show anything.
My daughter was also very sick in that timeframe, but her school (10 minutes from the epicenter of it here in NY) refused to test her. When she came back home, and had a routine physical, her doctor order an antibody test. This was 3-4 months later, and it came up negative...
IDK...
My daughter was also very sick in that timeframe, but her school (10 minutes from the epicenter of it here in NY) refused to test her. When she came back home, and had a routine physical, her doctor order an antibody test. This was 3-4 months later, and it came up negative...
IDK...
I think we’re learning that the antibody test is not a great marker of past infection, although if it positive, it is helpful. People with asymptomatic to mild infections tend to develop lower levels of antibodies and levels tend to drop off over time. My guess is that unlike measles, antibodies as we test for them today are not protective, and immune cell memory and recall will be what determines how one reacts when exposed to the virus. Measuring this using a lab test is very complex and expensive, as it entails keeping patient white blood cells alive long enough to test their reaction to viral parts in a test tube.
However, this is not a new or novel concept for determining past infection. When was the last time you had blood drawn for TB? That’s right, never. They inject a PPD test on your arm and watch whether you get a bump. That’s a cell mediated immune reaction. In fact, as a control, sometimes they inject another antigen that everybody should react with to see if your cell mediated immune system is working at all as a control.
However, this is not a new or novel concept for determining past infection. When was the last time you had blood drawn for TB? That’s right, never. They inject a PPD test on your arm and watch whether you get a bump. That’s a cell mediated immune reaction. In fact, as a control, sometimes they inject another antigen that everybody should react with to see if your cell mediated immune system is working at all as a control.
I don’t understand why you feel so compelled to post your ill informed opinions on social media. Each post just reinforces how little you know. If it is something that you feel strongly about please educate yourself on the real facts about the vaccine.
Covid 19 is real and here to stay. My small rural urgent care is getting overwhelmed with visits. Yesterday our first 6 patients tested positive. We had 20 positive rapids for the day plus a yet to be determine number from the PCR tests sent out. I sent two worsening covid patients to the hospital with pneumonia including a 92 year old women.
Fortunately a local medical group anticipated the need and rehabbed an older hospital to take covid patients so our hospitals are managing the crises well so far. One of the hardest aspects of this is my feelings of helplessness knowing there is very little that I can do outpatient that will significantly impact the course of this illness. Prevention is the key and we can all see how very poorly we do this here in the states.
Life will not return to “normal” until immunity is reached. That can happen either through illness or vaccine. Personally I would rather gain immunity from a small bit of antigenic material from a vaccine that lasts a day then by a virus invading my body with known long term risks.
While your response may be based on cumulative observation you may have jumped on his post a little hard. His observation of skipped steps is valid and only time will tell if those steps would have mattered.I don’t understand why you feel so compelled to post your ill informed opinions on social media. Each post just reinforces how little you know. If it is something that you feel strongly about please educate yourself on the real facts about the vaccine.
Covid 19 is real and here to stay. My small rural urgent care is getting overwhelmed with visits. Yesterday our first 6 patients tested positive. We had 20 positive rapids for the day plus a yet to be determine number from the PCR tests sent out. I sent two worsening covid patients to the hospital with pneumonia including a 92 year old women.
One of the hardest aspects of this is my feelings of helplessness knowing there is very little that I can do outpatient that will significantly impact the course of this illness. Prevention is the key and we can all see how very poorly we do this here in the states.
Life will not return to “normal” until immunity is reached. That can happen either through illness or vaccine. Personally I would rather gain immunity from a small bit of antigenic material from a vaccine that lasts a day then by a virus invading my body with known long term risks.
I do agree with rushing the vaccine to some extent and I will benefit in the ongoing testing and research that will continue between these first offerings to the front line health workers before I have the opportunity to get the vaccine. Sans the normal procedures we are only able to base the decision on corporate press releases, I appreciate the review by scientists and medical professionals which I will bend toward trusting over a bloviating buffoon living in a pale residence.
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