Halcyon

[cool_hardware52]

Mccabe, Just a quick question for you. You said you have an SS backplate, but you use an Aluminum one when you travel. Why not just use the Aluminum one all the time? I ask because I travel in order to dive, so I'm wondering if there's any drawback to just having the aluminum backplate?

Back plates aren't made of Stainless Steel because they need to be very strong, SS is used for the weight and corrosion resistance. When diving in cold water the 5-6 lbs of weight a SS backplate puts up over your buoyant lungs helps acheive horizontal trim.

When diving in warm water you will typically use less exposure suit, and therefore need less total weight. In some cases a heavy back plate will over weight the diver. This is where a light weight back plate is an advantage. Most folks choose to travel to warm sunny places where you need less exposure suit.

If you use a lightweight plate in cold water you loose the benefit of having some of your ballast over your lungs. You can use a lightweight plate in cold water, but now you have to find some other means of carrying weight, and having this weight around your waist often leads to trim problems.

Of course if travel weight restrictions are a problem a lightweight plate helps a bit.

Regards,


Tobin

 

[froginmgl]

With all this raving on the halcyon BP/ W I decided to get some pricing. I revamped the thought of 27lb lift took Kens advice went w/ 40lbs. Took all the web sights mentioned in other threads and found a great deal from dirdirect.com out of the UK. Did the monetary conversion to U.S and ordred a Eclipse 40 full system SS/BP. ONLY $443.00. I have opted to go single tank I can always swap out later down the road. Thanks for the imput.

 

[SangP]

Hi froginmgl,

I'm real curious how you got a such a deal as it's printed £399.00 on their site and that doesn't include shipping.

SangP

 

[froginmgl]

yes it is listed at 399 but when you checkout it's lower plus if you live in the US check worldwide shipping and it will give the total in eros then convert to US $ I am sure it was a total of $433.00 check it out again and let me know what you come up with. thanks

 

[DanielReyer]

With all this raving on the halcyon BP/ W I decided to get some pricing. I revamped the thought of 27lb lift took Kens advice went w/ 40lbs. Took all the web sights mentioned in other threads and found a great deal from dirdirect.com out of the UK. Did the monetary conversion to U.S and ordred a Eclipse 40 full system SS/BP. ONLY $443.00. I have opted to go single tank I can always swap out later down the road. Thanks for the imput.

I think you made a mistake in converting the price. DIR Direct is in the UK so I believe their price is quoted in pounds. You might want to double check before they ship it.

Dan

 

[Xizang]

check-out the new pioneer.

http://www.halcyon.net/mc/pioneer.shtml

 

[Vie]

check-out the new pioneer.

Wow, ugly. Reminds me of these:

http://www.omsdive.com/bc-chem.html

 

[mccabe]

Back plates aren't made of Stainless Steel because they need to be very strong, SS is used for the weight and corrosion resistance. When diving in cold water the 5-6 lbs of weight a SS backplate puts up over your buoyant lungs helps acheive horizontal trim.

When diving in warm water you will typically use less exposure suit, and therefore need less total weight. In some cases a heavy back plate will over weight the diver. This is where a light weight back plate is an advantage. Most folks choose to travel to warm sunny places where you need less exposure suit.

If you use a lightweight plate in cold water you loose the benefit of having some of your ballast over your lungs. You can use a lightweight plate in cold water, but now you have to find some other means of carrying weight, and having this weight around your waist often leads to trim problems.

Of course if travel weight restrictions are a problem a lightweight plate helps a bit.

Hello everyone,

This is exactly the reason for using the SS backplate. When coldwater diving it provides a better level of trim as the weight is evenly distributed over your back.

I wouldnt use the Aluminium plate in cold waters unless I was using the explorer wing (for twinsets) and/or using side-slungs etc.

The thing to do is identify what type of diving you want to do and buy the rig to suit you. The advantage of the halcyon however is that it is modular so you can chop and change the main components with relative haste and ease.

Andrew

 

[mccabe]

With all this raving on the halcyon BP/ W I decided to get some pricing. I revamped the thought of 27lb lift took Kens advice went w/ 40lbs. Took all the web sights mentioned in other threads and found a great deal from dirdirect.com out of the UK. Did the monetary conversion to U.S and ordred a Eclipse 40 full system SS/BP. ONLY $443.00. I have opted to go single tank I can always swap out later down the road. Thanks for the imput.

I agree with the others here, you should check that price again because it could work out double that!!

dirdirect.com is part of a group of companies based in Portland. Some may know Underwater Explorers which is the training company. A chap called Izzy is the man in the know with Halcyon and most things hogarthian and Im sure he would be more than happy to discuss things through with anyone.

On a lighter note though, this will probably be your best buy ever!!! Well, thats what I thought when I got my mine!!!

Andrew

 

[froginmgl]

I think you made a mistake in converting the price. DIR Direct is in the UK so I believe their price is quoted in pounds. You might want to double check before they ship it.

Dan[/QUOTE

Big mistake!!!! I think I'll stick with US currency. Thanks for all the heads up.