Halcyon Eclipse Wing Size??

[InkDiver]

I just got a Halcyon Eclipse setup this evening. The guy at the LDS asked if I wanted to go with the 30lb or 40lb lift wing. I was tight on time and the 40lb wing was already on it, so I took it that way. I have a chance to change it out for the 30lb wing before I dive with it this weekend.

I am about 200lbs
5mil or 3mil wetsuit
Dive in FL so fairly warm water
AL 80 tank
used 8-10 lbs weight in my jacket BC in fresh water depending on whether I was carrying lights, camera (digital slr with housing and large strobe) etc.

I may move to steel tanks in the near future, but that is not a sure thing.

Is the 40 lb overkill? Could I run into situations with the above config that the 30lb is not enough? I can understand not having enough lift, but is there equal risk in having too much - as I could just inflate less?


Any help you can provide is much appreciated!

Thanks

 

[digital_steve]

30lb ... definately

 

[cool_hardware52]

I just got a Halcyon Eclipse setup this evening. The guy at the LDS asked if I wanted to go with the 30lb or 40lb lift wing. I was tight on time and the 40lb wing was already on it, so I took it that way. I have a chance to change it out for the 30lb wing before I dive with it this weekend.

I am about 200lbs
5mil or 3mil wetsuit
Dive in FL so fairly warm water
AL 80 tank
used 8-10 lbs weight in my jacket BC in fresh water depending on whether I was carrying lights, camera (digital slr with housing and large strobe) etc.

I may move to steel tanks in the near future, but that is not a sure thing.

Is the 40 lb overkill? Could I run into situations with the above config that the 30lb is not enough? I can understand not having enough lift, but is there equal risk in having too much - as I could just inflate less?


Any help you can provide is much appreciated!

Thanks

Any BC need to meet two criteria; be able to float your gear at the surface with a full tank, if your ditch it, and be able to compensate for the maximum change in buoyancy of your exposure suit.

Your rig, assuming you have a SS plate, reg, lightweight STA, and a full al 80 will be about -12 lbs. This means you need a little more than 12 lbs of lift to float your rig without you in it.

A 5mm suit on a guy your size will probably be about 12-16 lbs positive, depending on the cut, the rubber used etc. Your suit cannot loose more buoyancy than it starts with at the surface. That means you need about 16 lbs of lift minimum to be able to compensate for a fully crushed wetsuit.

A 40 is a lot more lift than you need. A 30 is more than your application requires.

Tobin

 

[medic001918]

A 30 is more than adequate. I can dive a steel 108 with a 30 pound lift. I'd swap it.

Shane

 

[InkDiver]

OK great, I'll swap it. Thanks to all of you for your replies, and the helpful info!!

 

[Life-Is-Good-Diver]

I had both, their 30lb wing and their 40 lbs wing.

I also dive in Florida, and use the 40 lb wing for diving my PST 100's .

I found that with the 6lb SS backplate, the STA, and using a steel 100 HP tank, the 30lb lift wasn't enough for me.

I'm also weighted down with a UW water camera set up, that is about a 2 lbs neg, and also sling a 30 cf tank for bail out.

I just sold my set up, and went to a Re breather, and if you look under Life-is-good-diver on Ebay, You'll find I'm selling a Dive Rite trans plate set up, with Rec Wings, that have 51 lbs of lift , and I'm downsizing back to my Halcyon 40lb Eclipse Wing , and B/P

30 lbs wings are OK, but I always like Little more lift, cause my tank configurations are never the same, being I have had alum 80's, to HP steel 100's, to LP 108's

Now there all gone, for a unit that weights 40 lbs , and I can stay underwater over 5 hours with two little 13 cf tanks

My opinion would be keep what you have, worse case is it will take a extra hit of the button in gas

 

[SABR]

If it's for recreational depths with a wetsuit and an aluminum 80 the 30's fine...if you like to dive to the rec limits often with a steel tank and carry a camera and/or bailout and/or scooter...then go with the 40.

 

[Life-Is-Good-Diver]

If it's for recreational depths with a wetsuit and an aluminum 80 the 30's fine...if you like to dive to the rec limits often with a steel tank and carry a camera and/or bailout and/or scooter...then go with the 40.

I agree, all though I stay around 60' for reefs with my camera set up, I use a 6lb SS backplate, and I sling a stage bottle of generalley 19 to 30 cf , which is around 8lbs .

I also use a steel 23 stage bottle, thats 8lbs neg , so with all that I like to 40lbs of lift.

If you were using alum 80's, or a small steel tank, and wern't so neg, I would say the 30lbs wing is all your need.

The tanks have a wide range of ' swing " going from neg to sometimes 4+ lbs positive, depending on the tank, so I tend to use steel tanks, that keep me alittle neg, and with that and my 6lb SS B/P, and my other crap hanging off me, i dont use weight, but yet its weighted just perfect where i could swim it up if needed.

 

[ajduplessis]

Would you be able to dive doubles with the 40lb Eclipse wing, or are they only for singles?

 

[ONESPEED]

Would you be able to dive doubles with the 40lb Eclipse wing, or are they only for singles?

The Eclipse is strictly a singles wing.