GUE specific communication ?!

[Patoux01]

So... GUE actually has signals of its own?

Curious about what that book will contain... I'd expect simply 10 pages with sign - explanation, wouldn't call that a book and wouldn't think it should come out now communication has been used for over 20 years, but well, we'll see!

Thanks for confirming my doubts about those signs, even if I was pretty sure, they're still the divers that went through training, I merely read about it

 

[TSandM]

I don't think any of GUE's signals is unique to GUE. I think they are all pretty widely used technical diving signals.

 

[Patoux01]

Ah then I misread the fact that they all mentionned "GUE instructor" when they had issues with the signs. My bad.

 

[TSandM]

Maybe we have a rogue instructor . . .

 

[LiteHedded]

the gue signals are mostly the same as everyone else uses.
although i find that the stage drop signal is very easy to confuse with the 'light' signal. so we have altered it a bit. also i keep my fingers together for number 6-9 to make it a little clearer that it's not 1-4

 

[rjack321]

Can we make "light" "smb" and "drop a stage" NOT be the same hand signal?

So umm gotta ask what dive you are one where these could be confused?

I never tell people their backup is on. I tell them hold and just fix it. They figure out what I'm messing with pretty quick.

 

[PfcAJ]

Drop and light (and sometimes we've got more than the normal amount of lights) can be confusing esp at the start of a dive when a lot of stuff is going on. There's just not a good reason to the signals to be SO similar. I'll give a real life example:

Going into a restrictive cave and at 70ft there's an equipment drop area where things like 50%, scooters, stages, camelbacks, etc are staged and its also a good time to check over your buddy to make sure things are squared away before starting the dive in earnest. Buddy's backup light is on. What's easier? A quick signal and my bud fixes it or me having to get over there with lower vis, somewhat restrictive cave, lots of gear, and silty as all get out and fix it for him? The same signal is contextual for both conditions at that point of the dive because its a staging area, but also a 'check over your buddy' area.

A more simple example would be diving a long and hitting stage drop pressure, you signal, and your buddy goes to check his backup lights because he's not at pressure yet.

Is it some sort of critical thing? No, not really. Is it ambiguous? You bet. UW communication should be clear and simple as can be, imo.

SMB shoot is pretty obvi, though.

 

[rjack321]

I know I was just saying my usual MOA is to not try lots of sign language and instead just fix it. Not always convenient but backup lights are rarely found on with us anyway. And in really crappy vis its debate-able if anyone would see it.

 

[WhiteSands]

also i keep my fingers together for number 6-9 to make it a little clearer that it's not 1-4

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought 1-5 is with fingers pointing up, 6-9 with fingers pointing sideways?
Quite hard to misunderstand unless you're in a situation where orientation is tricky.

 

[TSandM]

Palm of the hand toward buddy for 1 - 5, back of the hand toward them for 6 - 9. Has the result of fingers up for the former and sideways for the latter.