Oh, believe me, that wasn't MY personal impression, just what I've read. I guess the real reason I even brought it up was to see what the reaction was from somone on that side of the fence. What is DIR anyway? I don't see that on the GUE website... No way, my idea is that the more informed you are, the more informed you are <grin>. Why do you think I'm even interested? It is because I could care less what somebody else thinks about a well informed diver, and it sounds like all the things I would have liked my PADI AOW and Rescue to be. Trust me, I'm with ya TSandM!