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vimaldude

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Hi all,

Last year, when we were in Akumal, Mexico, I did Discover Scuba dives with my 12 year old son. We did a total of 4 dives up to 40' max. My son is very comfortable in water and wants to get OW certified.

We are planning on getting OW certified this summer.

My question is:

Is it a good idea to dive with a 13 year old as buddy? I am afraid that if something goes wrong with me, he may not be able to help much.

What other safety precautions should I take?

Thanks.

Vimal.
 
Tough question adm one you can only answer. I have trained many 12 year olds. some good some not so good. It all depends on how mature they are. As they will only be a Jr Scuba diver they will be depth limited. But as you know it only takes 2 feet of water or 4 psi to damage the lungs. IMHO the age of certification should be moved to 14. Besides think of how many times you will have to replace those booties and wet suits before he stops growing.

Just my 1/2 cent. I'm sure others will disagree, but I dont claim to know everything, after all I have only been diving for 15 years. There are far more expierenced divers and instructors out there than I.

Have an Excellent DAY!
 
vimaldude:
...My question is: Is it a good idea to dive with a 13 year old as buddy? I am afraid that if something goes wrong with me, he may not be able to help much.

What other safety precautions should I take?

Thanks.

Vimal.


This is going to be a hot topic and has been covered in depth.

You are very correct to be concerned about your son's ability to be a good buddy to you if something were to happen to you.

You should also be concerned about his ability to independently handle a situation. Remember, when stuff happens to him, he will be the first to know. If he decides to "blow and go" all you will be able to do is potentially kill yourself chasing after him. IMHO that age is just too young. They tend to think themselves immortal. Some kids that age could be good dives, many are just to mentally immature.

There are many unknowns including the effects of pressure on the growing body.
 
I dive with my husband a lot more. But my daughter (just turned 15) and I dive the same speed and style (as far as we like to stop and look at stuff a lot more) and are much better as buddies. She has Jr AOW and Jr Rescue. These are courses that could possibly help your son develop further in his diving and help you feel more comfortable with him as a buddy.

Whether he is a good buddy is really a decision between the 2 of you. He certainly can be, age isn't necessarily a factor in that. Just continue to dive with him. HAVE FUN!

Juls
 
I thought of sharing this with families who enjoy diving together as a team and where kids are involved. I also talk a little about our equipment configuration. I'm no dive instructor, I only have 9 years diving experience. My wife only got certified July last year. So whatever you read here is purely sharing our experience with others and it is up to you to decide what works best for your family dive teams. Here goes:
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My wife and I are dive buddies. Last month, we had our 9-year old son, who will be turning 10 this September, certified as a PADI bubble maker.

Two weeks after his certification, we went diving but only in the shallows so that we could practice the drills (hand signals, mask clearing, out of air situations, bouyancy control, and trim). We did 4 dives this way so that we practiced all these drills until we could almost do it in our sleep. I am proud to say that we did ok as a team.

Obviously, our 9-year old will not be able to help any of us so it is more of my wife and I who are expected to assist him if he needs it. He is very comfortable in the water, able to clear his mask, swim without a mask, be able to switch to his backup regulator (yes, we set him up DIR-F style) from his primary, able to take my or my wife's primary reg in an OOA situation, etc. He is also able to offer his primary reg and switch to the backup reg in one motion. More importantly, we taught him the concept of diving as a team, staying close to the team for safety.

My son's rig is a customized harness BP/Wing. The SS BP is shorter by about 6cm and narrower by about 3-4cms. The BP and STA totals to about 6-lbs. He has a Dive Rite Travel wing. During his OW course, he was using a rented XS size BC, with the shoulder harness crossed. Despite that, he had trouble maintaining his trim as he was getting tossed around by the 50-cuft tank. With the BP/Wing setup, he is able to maintain trim enjoys the unrestricted freedom up front vs a jacket style BC. The BP/Wing setup also got rid of the weight belt. In shore entry dives, I carry his rig to the water and have him put it on by himself, including the crotch strap. He prefers it this way. In boat entry dives, he wears it top side and simply backrolls. No walking around the boat with all this gear. He is also comfortable in getting off the rig, even while he is 4-feet underwater, tuck all hoses and "rides" it to the boat. He sees me doing this at about 10 feet so he saw the advantage of doing that underwater instead of the surface, especially when there is some wave action going on. I know he could take it off in much deeper depths, but that would be for another teaching session.

Given my own personal experience with my son, I believe that a harness and BP/Wing setup is good for children as it will last them till they reach adulthood, by then requiring a change to a regular size BP. One only needs to change the harness, which I think will also be very rare and will probably be done every 2-3 years. Harness is also cheap vs buying a new BC everytime. The BP/wing setup is also very stable in that the gear is practically "integrated" to the child's body. No more near empty tanks riding high on his back. The weight belt is also something that kids can live without.

As a family dive team, we've standardized all our rigs to BP/Wing. My wife and I use Halcyon Eclipse with trim weights, we use 7-ft hoses for our primary, and backup regs on necklace. Standardizing our equipment makes it easier for us, including our son, to know where all the components are when we need them. His regulator setup is obviously not like ours. His primary regulator is on an octopus-length hose and his backup reg is on a 22" hose on a necklace. We wanted him to learn this setup early and hope that he continues to dive like this into the DIR-F future.

My wife will be taking DIR-F next month. I took it last month. We believe that continuing education make us all safer divers.

Hory
 
vimaldude:
Is it a good idea to dive with a 13 year old as buddy? I am afraid that if something goes wrong with me, he may not be able to help much.

Diving with your child is a gas (good pun, eh?) just like participating in any other legal activity is. Last year my daughter certified and last month we made three dives together in Florida. We had a few issues, like being under-weighted on the first boat dive and losing the dive log, but nothing too serious.

Consider this question. Who "takes care of" an instructor if something goes wrong with him while he has a group of OW trainees underwater? When you dive with your child you are in charge. You are the "instructor", whether you like it or not.

As for me, my daughter and I will build up her experience on reef dives from boats and the shore. In a few years, we might take some more courses together. For the present, I plan to takt the SSI stress/rescue diver course this summer. I have always been pretty calm underwater, but now I want some more skills in issue prevention and management. After all, I have my future with me when my daughter and I dive together.
 
My son was certified at 14, and he has somewhere around 30 dives.

Diving with him is great fun, and I do not feel that he's any more or less of a buddy than I am. If I'm having trouble, I fully expect him to be around and help me if needed. He and I have dived together in many places, including in San Diego to the wrecks at around 90'. He had a B/C malfunction that he handled quite nicely by himself, though dad was close by.

Bottom line is that whether someone can dive all depends on the maturity of the individual and their ability to resolve problems, regardless of age...

As with any buddy, practice your drills...They only take a few minutes.
 
Thanks for all the replies. This helps a lot.

Yes, I do agree that, as a parent, you are always "in charge" when diving with a child. I will take extra precautions until he is more experienced.

Looking forward to a lot of fun dives.!!!
 

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