ronski101
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Just ordered a G-10 with the Canon housing to replace my workhorse Casio EX-Z1050 and was wondering what the lag time on the shutter is, battery life, and also how close can you get for macro shots.
G-10 shutter lag time
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Warmwater Wank
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Ronski--Good move on the G-10. Lag time--depends. About .56 sec in WA, .67 sec in tele (this is in AF, in MF around .3 sec) W/ flash enabled about .9 sec (these are from Imaging Resource's test results). The battery is great (someone on this Forum mentioned you could probably run a small boat with it!). Specs are specs but IR sez 400 shots w/ LCD screen on. I'd say 3 dives easy, at least 300 shots, all using LCD & on-board flash in low setting (to trigger an external flash). Nice simple camera battery recharge system (built in folding plug, no cords!, fairly fast--2 hr max?)
For macro, it's not how close but how big an image. On WA you can get 1cm but it's not practical to be that close (due to flash shadowing and fish scattering). On the max tele end you can get w/in about 1 foot (11.9"-1.5' I think) but you are taking in an area of only 3.5" across at that distance--much nicer for shy critters and avoiding various flash probs.
Depending on your housing there are many choices for increasing the close-up image size w/ add-on diopter lenses. I use Canon's WP/DC-28 housing w/ a ReefNet SubSee magnifier that I really like (10x!). ReefNet is going to a 52mm diopter lens system soon. The lenses mount on a cool swing-away gate/arm for making quick regular distance shots. You'll really like the camera, have fun! // WW
For macro, it's not how close but how big an image. On WA you can get 1cm but it's not practical to be that close (due to flash shadowing and fish scattering). On the max tele end you can get w/in about 1 foot (11.9"-1.5' I think) but you are taking in an area of only 3.5" across at that distance--much nicer for shy critters and avoiding various flash probs.
Depending on your housing there are many choices for increasing the close-up image size w/ add-on diopter lenses. I use Canon's WP/DC-28 housing w/ a ReefNet SubSee magnifier that I really like (10x!). ReefNet is going to a 52mm diopter lens system soon. The lenses mount on a cool swing-away gate/arm for making quick regular distance shots. You'll really like the camera, have fun! // WW
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ronski101
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Thanks for the info WW. I am going to Little Cayman next month and can't wait to try out this new toy. Any basic set ups to use as starting points besides getting familiar with manual and lots of practice at home? No external flash yet and using the Canon housing.
sooke
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After encouragement from posters on this forum, I installed the Canon Zoom Browser EX program on the PC. So far, I can zoom in and trim,sharpen, brighten, saturate and add contrast to the photos. I'm amazed how going back and reworking old photo files has helped save boring photos. Make sure you use the L and fine settings for the largest file size to have lots to work with when zooming and triming. I have taken some blenny and eel photos and sharpened them to the point they start to look surreal and "artsy fartsy" ...good fun. Using the macro setting on the G-10 and re-working the photos is all I need at the moment. A super macro lens would be good to have later on.
Warmwater Wank
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Well, do PLAY with the camera in it's housing once you feel ok about basic operation. I spent a few days w/ the users manual and camera then put it in the housing once I felt familiar with it. Takes a bit to re-establsih that familiarity w/ the housing on but it's easier if you know the camera a bit first. (So nice to use the control wheel and certainly something you miss right away in the housing!) Thanks to someone's post several months ago about how you get around not having the control wheel I didn't feel too lame about making the adjustments I needed to w/ the housing on. Here is the info:
Originally Posted by Divingguy
I had a hard time finding this myself, and am in the exact same situation you are, so I am happy to share.
While in Av or Tv mode, with the appropriate adjustment "slider" in view and "active" on the LCD, you press and hold the "shift" button on the top left corner of the rear, and then toggle left or right by pressing on the sides of the 4-way selector on the right side of the rear. You will see the slider move accordingly. Takes 2 hands, but accomplishes the same as the rotating dial.
Sounds harder than it is. try it.
Tom
I use this technique, but prefer to use the manual mode, which provides much more control. You can use all of the functions without the 'dial' by the method above. As suggested, you can test it without a WP case. With gloves on, it can be easier than the 'dial'.
You can also set the "Shift" Button to assign white balance and still use it for changing aperture, shutter speed and, I believe, manual focus.
So, you basically use this method in Manual to adjust aperture or shutter speed. You use the Jump button (just above and to right of Control wheel/rocker switches to toggle between f/stop or shutter speed selection, then the above business to make either one change. Like Divingguy said, it sounds harder than it is--and must sound really weird if you don't have the camera yet!
Oh, zoom out when shooting w/ the on-board flash in the housing--it has serious shading problems at shorter focal lengths. Works pretty well zoomed out, especially in in macro, or up to around 2-3'. Otherwise maybe cancel the flash and either set a manual white balance or use the UW balance on the Func/Set menu. That way you can use wide angle or whatever and not worry about shadows from flash. Start saving up for an external strobe though--the camera "deserves" it! Have fun. // ww
Originally Posted by Divingguy
I had a hard time finding this myself, and am in the exact same situation you are, so I am happy to share.
While in Av or Tv mode, with the appropriate adjustment "slider" in view and "active" on the LCD, you press and hold the "shift" button on the top left corner of the rear, and then toggle left or right by pressing on the sides of the 4-way selector on the right side of the rear. You will see the slider move accordingly. Takes 2 hands, but accomplishes the same as the rotating dial.
Sounds harder than it is. try it.
Tom
I use this technique, but prefer to use the manual mode, which provides much more control. You can use all of the functions without the 'dial' by the method above. As suggested, you can test it without a WP case. With gloves on, it can be easier than the 'dial'.
You can also set the "Shift" Button to assign white balance and still use it for changing aperture, shutter speed and, I believe, manual focus.
So, you basically use this method in Manual to adjust aperture or shutter speed. You use the Jump button (just above and to right of Control wheel/rocker switches to toggle between f/stop or shutter speed selection, then the above business to make either one change. Like Divingguy said, it sounds harder than it is--and must sound really weird if you don't have the camera yet!
Oh, zoom out when shooting w/ the on-board flash in the housing--it has serious shading problems at shorter focal lengths. Works pretty well zoomed out, especially in in macro, or up to around 2-3'. Otherwise maybe cancel the flash and either set a manual white balance or use the UW balance on the Func/Set menu. That way you can use wide angle or whatever and not worry about shadows from flash. Start saving up for an external strobe though--the camera "deserves" it! Have fun. // ww
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I switched to the G-10 from a Casio Z-1000 and found the shutter lag to be much less with the G-10. Macro ... I find I can get within a couple inches of my subject and get excellent results.
Here's an example I took just a few days ago in the Channel Islands ... this Spanish Shawl is less than an inch in length, and I was taking this in a heavy surge ... where a short shutter lag really matters ...
I liked my Casio, but there's no comparison in terms of performance ... the G-10 absolutely rocks!
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Here's an example I took just a few days ago in the Channel Islands ... this Spanish Shawl is less than an inch in length, and I was taking this in a heavy surge ... where a short shutter lag really matters ...
I liked my Casio, but there's no comparison in terms of performance ... the G-10 absolutely rocks!
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Warmwater Wank
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Yup, like Bob sez, you can get closer than 12" but the flash shadowing problem from the Canon housing (if you aren't using an external strobe) is a big problem the closer you get. Use the "salad bar" flash diffuser shield that comes w/ the housing and shadowing is not bad when zoomed out to 140mm equivalent--even if you can't get quite as big an image as you can when in WA.
I hear ya on shutter delay though. Had an old Oly D-560 that had such bad sutter lag the fish I was shooting was spawning in a different ocean before the camera fired...
In practice the shutter delay is very negligible on the G-10. // ww
I hear ya on shutter delay though. Had an old Oly D-560 that had such bad sutter lag the fish I was shooting was spawning in a different ocean before the camera fired...
In practice the shutter delay is very negligible on the G-10. // wwSimilar threads
