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The rumor is that the masks were put in positive pressure mode. I have done that on a OTS, as a diver it wasn't especially natural for me, I suspect because the flow rate was a bit high. I assume the ocean reef is not normally run in positive pressure mode? Know anything about how they did that modification or just general comments on how that facilitated extraction and minimized the risk of them not being able to clear your masks?Thank you so much for your great thoughts and ideas. I'm always looking for other options and scenarios to enhance redundancy and safety...
As Jim stated, the Ocean Reef FFMs are positive pressure. I've literally pulled the top part of the mask away from my face to flood and only gotten a few drops in because of all the air escaping out of the seal. One of the very reasons I dive a full face. That and the fact that it's nearly impossible to fog them and they eliminate jaw fatigue. The only real downsides are that they're a bit bulky until you get used to them and if diving especially warm water, you do (I do at least) tend to get a bit hot at times. But it makes a lot of sense why they chose the OR FFM for this extraction. Much easier to teach someone quickly how to breathe underwater since they essentially facilitate normal breathing through the nose and/or mouth. Unless of course you're me. I have mine set up so that my nostrils are closed off at all times and I never have to touch the mask to equalize. I simply close my throat and blow against it.The rumor is that the masks were put in positive pressure mode. I have done that on a OTS, as a diver it wasn't especially natural for me, I suspect because the flow rate was a bit high. I assume the ocean reef is not normally run in positive pressure mode? Know anything about how they did that modification or just general comments on how that facilitated extraction and minimized the risk of them not being able to clear your masks?
Bravo for having the sizes readily available for 11-16yo boys.
There's another drawback that's got me considering a return to traditional second stage. Since it's positive pressure, it's easy to leak gas. I've got close to 40 dives on mine now and am still frustrated at the sky high sac rate that I have. In June I did a week in Cozumel and I was consistently the first guy back on the boat. At home it's no big deal because I dive giant tanks that give me the dive times I need. On vacation where it's 80 or 100cuft tanks, it's kind of a bummer. Prior to using FFM, I wouldn't have said my sac was great (compared to what I read about on scubaboard) but it was totally acceptable. I could be the first guy in and not the first guy out.As Jim stated, the Ocean Reef FFMs are positive pressure. I've literally pulled the top part of the mask away from my face to flood and only gotten a few drops in because of all the air escaping out of the seal. One of the very reasons I dive a full face. That and the fact that it's nearly impossible to fog them and they eliminate jaw fatigue. The only real downsides are that they're a bit bulky until you get used to them and if diving especially warm water, you do (I do at least) tend to get a bit hot at times. But it makes a lot of sense why they chose the OR FFM for this extraction. Much easier to teach someone quickly how to breathe underwater since they essentially facilitate normal breathing through the nose and/or mouth. Unless of course you're me. I have mine set up so that my nostrils are closed off at all times and I never have to touch the mask to equalize. I simply close my throat and blow against it.
Yeah, I've experienced this, too. In Cozumel nonetheless. Usually one of the first ones back on the boat. But that's also when I'm moving around a lot trying to catch still photos, etc. I find if I'm more still and just sort of flow along with the currents I can get a few more minutes out of my tank. But yes I do notice a slightly higher sac, too.There's another drawback that's got me considering a return to traditional second stage. Since it's positive pressure, it's easy to leak gas. I've got close to 40 dives on mine now and am still frustrated at the sky high sac rate that I have. In June I did a week in Cozumel and I was consistently the first guy back on the boat. At home it's no big deal because I dive giant tanks that give me the dive times I need. On vacation where it's 80 or 100cuft tanks, it's kind of a bummer. Prior to using FFM, I wouldn't have said my sac was great (compared to what I read about on scubaboard) but it was totally acceptable. I could be the first guy in and not the first guy out.
The leaks I experience come from moving my head around, making a small gap somewhere that gas can escape. I'm not suggesting the masks are defective in any way.. it's just something unique to diving positive pressure FFM's that you have to manage.