eweingarden
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Is one better than the other in terms of materials used? Does one provide better insulating capacity over the other? Thanks.
Fourth Element Arctic Expedition vs Halo 3D
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I have ordinary Artics and a Halo 3d that I happened to get cheap. I don’t rate the Helo 3d. It takes more lead but doesn’t seem warmer. Mine is lent out at the moment and I have since bought a Santi BZ400X for trips where I expect it to be particularly cold.
They’ve discontinued the AE.
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eweingarden
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Thanks for the update on the AE.
I believe they’ll be discontinuing the Halo 3D as well as soon as the Halo AR is released.
Bald Wookie
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Regular arctics are fantastic. The Halo and AR will require more lead because they trap more air/argon with their design.
I do recommend the arctic one-piece if you invest, the two-piece design may ride up as you get your suit donned which can be annoying.
Pop into costco and get a set of thin marino wool base-layers to wear under the Arctic and you'll be pretty set up for lots of cold water activities.
I do recommend the arctic one-piece if you invest, the two-piece design may ride up as you get your suit donned which can be annoying.
Pop into costco and get a set of thin marino wool base-layers to wear under the Arctic and you'll be pretty set up for lots of cold water activities.
I dove my newer arctics a few weeks ago and was pretty happy in 43f water under a 5mm neo suit. Mobility was better than my other less warm undersuit.
It was recommended to me to get the arctics over the halo so I could have the advantage to layer marino underneath which is the plan. Again, in a neo ds.
The only slight downside (which is really just a skill problem) is it's lofty and holds air well, so on ascent it's slightly harder to get air out of the suit. I just needed to remember that and maybe prepare for it as I come up. Not a big deal.
I don't know if that helped or not...but I love the arctics way more than I thought I would. I'm cheap and bought new and believe they were worth every penny. Hell I spent more on them than the ds itself
It was recommended to me to get the arctics over the halo so I could have the advantage to layer marino underneath which is the plan. Again, in a neo ds.
The only slight downside (which is really just a skill problem) is it's lofty and holds air well, so on ascent it's slightly harder to get air out of the suit. I just needed to remember that and maybe prepare for it as I come up. Not a big deal.
I don't know if that helped or not...but I love the arctics way more than I thought I would. I'm cheap and bought new and believe they were worth every penny. Hell I spent more on them than the ds itself
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eweingarden
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Thanks for all the input.
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