ctimms
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I will be doing a shore dive in monterey ca on sunday to try out my new bare atr hd. I have never used a dry suit before and am very excited about it!Does anybody have any last minute advice for me? :11:
First time dry!!
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sure,
what snowbear said,
and putz around in the shallows for half an hour or so rolling around changing body position, getting used to the air movement in the suit, finding out what happens when you stand on your head.
one other thing,
contrary to what seems to be the generally accepted rule, DONT rely on your suit as your primary source of bouyancy control, keep the minimum amount of gas in the suit to maintain your underwear loft, then use the BCD that you are used to for the rest of your bouyancy adjustments.
Have fun
what snowbear said,
and putz around in the shallows for half an hour or so rolling around changing body position, getting used to the air movement in the suit, finding out what happens when you stand on your head.
one other thing,
contrary to what seems to be the generally accepted rule, DONT rely on your suit as your primary source of bouyancy control, keep the minimum amount of gas in the suit to maintain your underwear loft, then use the BCD that you are used to for the rest of your bouyancy adjustments.
Have fun
Greg D.
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Dont forget to make sure you zipper is closed have a good buddy with you an enjoy that dry drive home 
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Snowbear:
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wolf eel
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Ditto
I really have to disagree and I do not want too. But he will have loads of grief doing both for the first time, yes he will. And if you are going to suggest this you may want to mention some extra weight to help as he will be having trouble controling both suit and BCD. I have never been able to agree with this. Why do you need your BCD at 60' sure at 100+ but 60' no way. It adds to task load and in the event of a rapid accent you can still control it but with both suit and BCD that would be very hard to do.
Your going to love it !!!! Warm and dry cool. Make sure you don't move your wrists around alot or you may have that wet feeling all over.
Cheers
Daryl Morse
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My vote is with Mark on this. You have much more control of where the center of lift is positioned when you use the BCD. If you use your suit only and you want to go head down for some reason, the air rushes up to your feet. Once that happens, you're feet are doing the lifting. Bye, bye trim. No fun. It's a PITA to get things back in order when that happens.wolf eel:
I only put enough air in the suit to counter the squeeze. If I have so much air in my suit that I can feel a bubble, for me it's too much. With a BCD if you need to dump, you can always dump. With a drysuit, you can only dump if the bubble is where the dump valve is.
As for task loading. I also disagree. Until recently, I never dove in a wetsuit. I did all of my OW and AOW dives dry. It's no big deal as long as you experiment in the shallow depths to get the hang of it. (Although I must admit, it's kind of nice diving wet (in warm water) not having to deal with the drysuit.)
wolf eel
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That happens even if you use a BCD. At the surface you, I use the BCD and thats it. And after dumping air I fall and then I add some air as I fall.
At shallow depths (35 to 60) you do not have all that much pressure to the suit.
Alright then go out and try to get a guy off the bottom with you in a rescue mode of any kind. You Now have three airways to expell not two
The problem or value needed is the practice he has none and for the first time ever try just the suit because he should be doing shallow dives no?
MASS-Diver
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wolf eel:
*ugh* DS valves are not meant to dump gas fast, there no reason to use your suit as a BC - it only leads to problems. If controlling to air spaces is that much task loading - then there are bigger problems.
In terms of diving dry my advice would be get your weight dialed in right away, that's key and to get a p-valve (they rock).
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