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ADStonina

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Dear Scuba Board Community,

I am trying to get things in order to start SCUBA training. I have a question related to equipment:

What brands of equipment would you recommend? For instance: I wear glasses, so I need a mask that can be converted, so that I can see. What brand is the best? What kind of snorkel should I get, for there are several kinds and which one is the best, for a beginner? What kind of fins gives one the most comfort and yet propels one underwater the best? Depending upon the fins, what kind of boots work best?

I am, so taken aback as to what one should get, and I do not want someone to sell me something just to get a good commission, so some direction in this area would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

ADStonina
 
Depending on your optical needs a prescription mask or contacts can work.

Can you funcion OK on the surface without glasses? I so a mask may be the best.

Do you require bifocals? If so relaize that when diving with a hood your range of motion may be slightly limited and your trim will keep you at a certain attitude (angle) in the water. A bifocal lens will dictate your neck poistion to see certain htings. If you have bifocals or progressives you know what I mean.

In my case I have progressive eye glasses with astigmatism correction and my contacts are in a monovision arrangement. My left eye is corrected for near and the left for far, the brain sorts out. This worked out will since the gauges come from the left. So far I liked it during one pool scuba session and about 3 hours of skin diving. My uncorrected eyes also got tired when I got out of the water so this seems like it will work for me. YMMV

As for the rest of the gear. Most of it really needs to be fit to you so visiting your local shop is the best bet. Study the gear forums here and get informed about the options. Don't expect and conclusive answers, learn enough to make your own choices.

Pete

ADStonina:
Dear Scuba Board Community,

I am trying to get things in order to start SCUBA training. I have a question related to equipment:

What brands of equipment would you recommend? For instance: I wear glasses, so I need a mask that can be converted, so that I can see. What brand is the best? What kind of snorkel should I get, for there are several kinds and which one is the best, for a beginner? What kind of fins gives one the most comfort and yet propels one underwater the best? Depending upon the fins, what kind of boots work best?

I am, so taken aback as to what one should get, and I do not want someone to sell me something just to get a good commission, so some direction in this area would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

ADStonina
 
Buy the best equipment you can afford. I wear a bifocal mask. I love it. I recently purchased a new mask with a clear skirt. That particular mask required the prescirtion lenses to be bonded to the original lens. With my prescription the sun coming through the mask skirt and angling through the bonded lenses acted like a magnifying glass. The area under my eyes was seriously sunburned. I'll never buy a clear skirt mask again.
In reality most of us buy stuff until we find what we like; or what ever is currently cool. It's only money!

Joe
 
ADStonina:
Dear Scuba Board Community,

I am trying to get things in order to start SCUBA training. I have a question related to equipment:

What brands of equipment would you recommend? For instance: I wear glasses, so I need a mask that can be converted, so that I can see. What brand is the best? What kind of snorkel should I get, for there are several kinds and which one is the best, for a beginner? What kind of fins gives one the most comfort and yet propels one underwater the best? Depending upon the fins, what kind of boots work best?

I am, so taken aback as to what one should get, and I do not want someone to sell me something just to get a good commission, so some direction in this area would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

ADStonina
There are a lot of excellent manufacturers of diving equipment, and there is no "best" for everything. There is some basic gear you should have for your classes - mask, fins, boots, and snorkel - and the rest of it can probably wait for a little while, at least. You don't need to spend a ton of money to get really good stuff, and you should definitely not assume that the more expensive stuff is actually better than the medium priced stuff - a lot of it isn't any better than stuff that costs only half as much.

For your basic gear, I would recommend that you read some of the articles at scubadiving.com under the "gear" heading - they have articles about fins, about masks and snorkels, and about boots (the boots are under "gear bags and accessories"). You can also use their search function. I think that's a good place to start to get some basic information about what matters most in buying a mask, especially.

For seeing underwater, there are a lot of masks that can take prescription lenses, and some people (like me) wear disposable contact lenses. If you are going to have prescription lenses installed in a mask, the most important thing is to start with a good mask that fits your face. You don't need to spend a lot of money for a mask - scubadiving.com does a good job of showing that the $45 masks are just as good as the $150 masks. What matters most is how it fits your face. Next to fit, I would look for low volume and good visibility in all directions. That's about all there is to it.

Don't spend any more than you have to for a snorkel - a comfortable mouthpiece on a simple plastic tube is all you need, although I think the purge valves below the mouthpiece are a convenience. I would not buy a "dry" snorkel - I am almost embarrassed to admit that I bought one, and think it was a waste of money; I bought another without the "dry" contraption, and have never used that dry snorkel again.

The boots should be appropriate for the type of diving you are going to do. If you are going to dive in cold water, you want thicker and higher boots to make sure your skin is covered. If you are going to be doing shore dives (from the beach), you will want to have sturdy soles that will protect your feet - a lighter sole might be sufficient if you are only going to be doing boat dives.

Get the boots before the fins, because you have to make sure the boots fit properly inside the foot pockets of the fins you choose. The boots should fit closely, like a sock, but you don't want them so tight they restrict circulation. If they are loose in the store, they will be too loose in the water.

You don't need to spend a ton of money on the "best" fins, because a lot of people think the most expensive fins are not the best at all. I started with Scubapro Jet Fins and dove with nothing else for about 30 years. If I were starting out again with only one pair of fins, they would still be my first choice. I also have a pair of split fins that cost about twice as much, but are no better - just a different kind of fin. A lot of people in these parts seem to despise split fins. There are dozens of other perfectly good choices. In any case, I would recommend starting with the reviews at scubadiving.com as a good place to read about all the different choices and price ranges.

When you have identified a few things that interest you, this is a good place to ask specific questions about specific products, or to use the "search" function to find old threads discussing them.

If you going to be taking lessons through a local dive shop (LDS is the acronym you will see used here), they may offer you a discount on gear purchased for your class, and if you can find what you want there, I think it's a good idea to buy from your LDS.
 
Newbie here also, just finished class only a couple more days till checkout dives.

Now if there was 1 thing I could change about the gear I bought would be: A folding snorkel, I got a nice snorkel sold to me by my LDS, works great, but I quickly realized that it's sucks when on scuba, always in the way, etc. Now I need a snorkel for class/checkouts, but after, I would have liked to stash in my BC pocket for when I need it, but not have it in the way when diving.

My .02 cents.
 
ADStonina:
Dear Scuba Board Community,

I am trying to get things in order to start SCUBA training. I have a question related to equipment:

What brands of equipment would you recommend? For instance: I wear glasses, so I need a mask that can be converted, so that I can see. What brand is the best? What kind of snorkel should I get, for there are several kinds and which one is the best, for a beginner? What kind of fins gives one the most comfort and yet propels one underwater the best? Depending upon the fins, what kind of boots work best?

I am, so taken aback as to what one should get, and I do not want someone to sell me something just to get a good commission, so some direction in this area would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

lol, uh oh, this could start a good thread.

Get the equipment that is the most comfortable to you, and don't listen to a store owner talking about this brand is crud or that brand is crud. Since these things are life support systems with a high lawsuit potential when something actually is crud, few things are actually really bad.

That being said, be reasonable. That old saying about if it's too good to be true, it probably is. I got a heck of a deal on a rather uncomfortable twenty year old ScubaPro BC off ebay for 50 bucks and did well with that actually (now dive with a DiveRite Transpac 2), but you want to be careful of doing things like grabbing a "brand new reg" off Ebay for 50 bucks; something's wrong.

After you find things that seem comfortable to you and are in your budget, do some online research. Check out gear reviews to see if there are any major problems, and do some price comparisons with some online retailers. Go armed with this information to your LDS and see if they can suit your needs. You can usually expect to pay a BIT more, which is worth it for the service, but if you're seeing huge price discrepencies, walk.

Hard to screw up a snorkel. Some of the most high-tech to me, are the most cumbersome. A girl I used to work with retired to Hawaii and got a "dry snorkel" as a gift that probably cost 60 bucks, and man, I cannot picture trying to move with that giant scary ball at the top of it.

Fins are up to you. I LOVE my Mares Volos; a lot of people live and die by JetFins. I used to have Mares Planas, which are widely liked, and I absolutely hated them. On boots, if you're wearing them (I'm cold water, so I have to and like them), I'd recommend a pretty nice thick sturdy sole (I'd rec the Henderson boots, which are WONDERFUL for comfort and fit, but the darn things fell apart really quickly) because it makes shore entries SO much nicer. Hopefully you can try out some different fins. Oh, and really check out dive shop glove and boot prices. I got fleeced on mine. Forty bucks for snorkeling neoprene booties and tried to get me forty for gloves. Found sturdy nice DeepSee boots in Monterey for 60 (versus the 90 my shop wanted) and new gloves on Ebay for 20.

Sounds like where you may have to spring some bucks is on the mask. A mask that fits well is critical to your diving experience, and you want to get one that comfortably accomodates your vision. I like my Aqualung Mythos, but know nothing about corrective masks. To the best of my knowledge, brand of mask makes almost no difference whatsoever so long as it's a sturdy scuba mask (versus plastic cave-in Walmart stuff, which you already know). The best brand is the one that fits you, accomodates your vision, and is comfortable for the dive. You know how to do the sniff test, correct?

Have fun!
 
Is it possible to rent gear for your OW course?

Personally, I wouldn't consider buying any equipment before OW. And I still wouldn't buy gear immediately after OW. Dive a little bit and find out what's important to you. We have tons of unused gear since we bought too early to know better. Sure, these were "highly rated" and got great responses from people, but it didn't meet our diving needs.

After narrowing your choices based on feedback and reviews, it's best to try out the equipment before you buy. The reviewer may not dive the same way you do, have the same concerns, or have the same preference for features. Yes, it's not always possible to try before you buy, but trying it out will help prevent expensive rebuys.

Good luck.
 
Rent for a good long while! Try to rent anything that sounds like it might appeal to you.

You will save $$ in the long run, if not the short. :)
 
The fins I love are the mares quattros with homemade fin straps and not commercial fin straps since my buddies commercial fin straps stretched on him.
 
ADStonina,

Most equipment is a very personal decision. You can try on a mask that 20 people think is the best, only to find that it doesn't fit you well and leaks like a sieve. Don't limit yourself to what is available at your LDS. Hit as many shops as you can, and rent as many different brands of gear as possible before shelling out money for your own gear. You'll find that your opinion about a piece of equipment can change once you've actually used it.

Good luck!
 

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