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Michael Guerrero
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No he is not charging extra, he actually said it depends of the student, he is very cautious and prefers to extend the course with me I guess because I have so few dives, but at the end if I dive how I normally do and pay attention I shall be done earlier, and if not, it means that I'm getting corrected so that is positive, the only extra charge is O2.
I understand his concerns as well as others when they see the little experience I have, what can I learn by diving how I dive, I will just keep diving as I dive, so there will be no improvement or nothing else to learn or correct, I have not hear nothing negative from any of the instructors with who I had taken courses, so I guess I most be doing something right, I still have a lot to learn but how can I learn by my self by just diving ??
I understand his concerns as well as others when they see the little experience I have, what can I learn by diving how I dive, I will just keep diving as I dive, so there will be no improvement or nothing else to learn or correct, I have not hear nothing negative from any of the instructors with who I had taken courses, so I guess I most be doing something right, I still have a lot to learn but how can I learn by my self by just diving ??
I like my Bare. It has held up to just about anything and has a lifetime warranty. Couldn't ask for more.
WarrenZ
The Ultimate Bad Example
I like my fusion. However one thing I notice is the leg that has the pvalve holding the two layers together is a lot easier to get into then the other leg.
I may have to figure out a reason to tack the other leg together with something.
I may have to figure out a reason to tack the other leg together with something.
is it Tri-laminate or crushed Neoprene ??
---------- Post added October 19th, 2015 at 03:19 PM ----------
for what the instructors here in Netherland had told me, is if I decide to buy a drysuit to get a Tri-laminate, what are your experiences ??
---------- Post added October 19th, 2015 at 03:19 PM ----------
for what the instructors here in Netherland had told me, is if I decide to buy a drysuit to get a Tri-laminate, what are your experiences ??
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Remy: Fusions are special. AFAIU the Fusion is a love-or-hate object, with very little middle ground. I looked at a Fusion when my son was shopping for a new DS. Neither he nor I liked the construction; it seemed like a serious hassle to don and doff compared to a normal back- or frontzip suit with normal undergarments.
My first DS was a compressed neoprene suit (ScubaPro Everdry 4). It's very easy to dive, snug and stretchy like a WS with a tiny air bubble and virtually no air travel. Light legs or boots popping off is a non-issue. From what I saw of the Fusion we considered, I'd assume that it shared some of those properties and that that is what makes people like it. My problem with the Scubapro was that it didn't provide room for thick winter undergarments, so keeping warm during winter diving was a bit difficult. I only had room for a couple of layers of not-too-thick wool underwear, but I guess if I'd gotten it a size or two larger that would've been different. OTOH, air travel would have been more of an issue. My second DS is a trilam suit, a WaterProof D7. It has room for really thick undergarments, and properly weighted for winter temps (i.e. slightly overweighted according to SB consensus), I have plenty of loft and air inside the suit to keep me warm even in near-freezing water temps. The downside is of course that the bubble is bigger, I need to be more aware of air travel, and the larger amounts of air vent slower through my undergarment than the thin layer of air inside the ScubaPro does. Another disadvantage of the trilam suit is that the fabric isn't stretchy, so I feel noticeably more constriction from that suit than from the ScubaPro. Win some, lose some. TANSTAAFL.
Since I haven't been able to find a buyer for the neoprene suit, I'm using it when the water temp rises above ~10C (which it seldom does around here, but it happens more often a little bit further South), but for >75% of my dives, I'm using the trilam. I'd like to use the neoprene suit more, because it's almost as easy to dive as a wetsuit.
I've also heard the "get a trilam" mantra, but I have several clubmates who seem very happy with their (compressed or crushed) neoprene suits and don't se any reason to switch to trilam. I guess preferred type of DS is a combination of personal preference, prioritizing different properties and, of course, a bit of post-purchase rationalization
My first DS was a compressed neoprene suit (ScubaPro Everdry 4). It's very easy to dive, snug and stretchy like a WS with a tiny air bubble and virtually no air travel. Light legs or boots popping off is a non-issue. From what I saw of the Fusion we considered, I'd assume that it shared some of those properties and that that is what makes people like it. My problem with the Scubapro was that it didn't provide room for thick winter undergarments, so keeping warm during winter diving was a bit difficult. I only had room for a couple of layers of not-too-thick wool underwear, but I guess if I'd gotten it a size or two larger that would've been different. OTOH, air travel would have been more of an issue. My second DS is a trilam suit, a WaterProof D7. It has room for really thick undergarments, and properly weighted for winter temps (i.e. slightly overweighted according to SB consensus), I have plenty of loft and air inside the suit to keep me warm even in near-freezing water temps. The downside is of course that the bubble is bigger, I need to be more aware of air travel, and the larger amounts of air vent slower through my undergarment than the thin layer of air inside the ScubaPro does. Another disadvantage of the trilam suit is that the fabric isn't stretchy, so I feel noticeably more constriction from that suit than from the ScubaPro. Win some, lose some. TANSTAAFL.
Since I haven't been able to find a buyer for the neoprene suit, I'm using it when the water temp rises above ~10C (which it seldom does around here, but it happens more often a little bit further South), but for >75% of my dives, I'm using the trilam. I'd like to use the neoprene suit more, because it's almost as easy to dive as a wetsuit.
I've also heard the "get a trilam" mantra, but I have several clubmates who seem very happy with their (compressed or crushed) neoprene suits and don't se any reason to switch to trilam. I guess preferred type of DS is a combination of personal preference, prioritizing different properties and, of course, a bit of post-purchase rationalization
WarrenZ
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Fusions are essentially a oversized shell suit with a stretchy outer skin which is attached at the wrists, ankles, and around the zipper/inflator and in my case the pvalve. This makes for getting into it an interesting experience since you have to don the legs/boots and then work the skin into place as you walk the suit up. I like the suit because I have lots of movement but the skin keeps the excess material close to my body.
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