Ok guys/girls maybe you can help me. I just purchased a Whites off of this very same message board and need a pair of boots to wear with it (i do mostly shore diving here in Monterey and Carmel). I think I like Whites and their Altera boots. My question is how much bigger do I need to order the boots to compensate for the suit feet and the thermal socks (also Whites)? I wear an 11.5-12 in normal shoes. Thanks for your help!!