Drowning at Lake Rawlings

[ScubaFeenD]

if you are still intensely anxious and unable to relax and enjoy your dive, something about your skills, training, or suitability for diving needs to be more closely examined. I think he is right.

I totally agree with that statement, I just dont think the answer is to give up and get out of diving; that was my main point. I would just hate to tell anyone that they should not be able to take part because of a possibly correctable anxiety issue. Its the extreme position I disagreed with. I apologize that I wasn't more clear with my response :-/

 

[Diver0001]

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[DA Aquamaster]

This has to be the most ignorant statement I have read in awhile, and I would argue the contrary. If you have 25 dives and are too cocky to recognize your limits and your inexperience, then you are a danger to yourself and to others. Twenty-five dives is nothing, and at that point any diver still has a load more to learn. I would never claim, at my low level of dives, that I am confortable. Sure, I am not panicking and I have control of myself in the water, but I still learn a boatload on every dive. Further, I would never tell someone who is truly interested in being better and being a great diver to leave if they were still gaining confidence and comfort.

Maybe there needs to be greater fitness requirements (that i agree with) and screening, but you don't need to be a cocky, ignorant, young kid to be a diver.

Lynn's right - you misinterpreted what I am saying.

FWIW I agree with you about diving being a life long learning thing. I have been diving since 1985 and have averaged about 100 dives per year and still find things to learn and improve on every dive.

If you want to consider something "arrogant" consider the number of DM's and instructors with a comparatively low number of dives and/or little or no ability to actually teach. An industry attitude and marketing approach that creates that situation is what contributes to accidents like this one.

Another form of arrogance is more experienced divers not seeing the need to mentor newly minted divers. How many times have you seen a couple of newbies paired together at the local quarry or lake so they won't ruin or shorten dives if paired with more experienced divers? How many times have you made your self available to mentor someone else with less experience? It's one of the more effective ways to keep divers moving forward safely in the sport - even if training is not what it should be.

 

[GovernmentEfficiency]

For those that were there the day of the incident. What happend underwater if you were told. Unless I missed it from what I gather in these post something happened, 1 surfaced and 1 did not. Im asking this to learn from it.

Our family suspected foul play. Detectives just couldn't prove it. I Just wanted to put it out there.

 

[GovernmentEfficiency]

:daisy::daisy:Actually, I found the answer to my own question as I was at Lake Rawlings today and was informed that this is still an ongoing investigation. Therefore of course the outcome has not been "officially reported". I definitely am not refering to any speculation posted here. After all what is really to be learned from speculation. However, if anyone does knows of any other links to news stories regarding this case that haven't been already posted above, I am asking for them to be posted here. Maybe we can learn more from and about this incident as time goes by. If we learn from what really happened then she may not have died in vain. Thanks everyone!

Murder but can't be proven.

 

[tursiops]

Our family suspected foul play. Detectives just couldn't prove it. I Just wanted to put it out there.

Murder but can't be proven.

@GovernmentEfficiency Unbelievable. Your first post on SB opens a 15 year-old thread, about an accident 17 years ago, and you insinuate the accident was a murder, with no evidence and no information about the accident or yourself (except that you are 44 years old and from New York), and a username that sounds like QAnon.
Who the hell are you? What is your purpose in these posts?
By the way, MY family thinks you are a troll or an idiot or maybe both.

 

[telemonster]

Well Tursiops, if ya didn’t figure it out it is someone that knew the deceased and likely believes the survivor was involved in foul play. Most likely grieving over the loss.

Wonder what court case looks like.

This was the training class where the lady went off the back of the metal training platform and sank down to where the boat is I believe?