Does anyone have an underwater photo of an oxycheq 45 wing?

[deepdiverbc]

First, thank you to Genesis for the great photo.

With both the Oxycheq and Pioneer wings the bladders wrap the tank. Would they both trap air especially on the right side of the wing and make it difficult to vent air if a diver ascends horizontally such as during a shore dive or DIR method of ascending? Would it be a better design if a wing could be attached to the outside edge of the back plate somehow? I think this is what the Zeagle BP&W has done as shown in the first link.

http://homepage.mac.com/sydney_diver/mykit.html

I have not dove any of these wings. For those with a more experienced eye what differences are apparent in these photos. The oxycheq is a #45 and I think the pioneer is the #36.

http://www.scubaboard.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=413404
http://jonnythan.com/pictures/big_blue_10-05-03/picture (12).html

 

[deepdiverbc]

I can't link the last photo so I will just post the picture. It is from a previous thread on this board.

 

[Genesis]

The Oxycheq doesn't have them.

There is no air trapping issue due to the circular nature of the bladder. Turn either butt up a bit or head up a bit and dump using the appropriate dump location.

 

[deepdiverbc]

Genesis once bubbled...
The Oxycheq doesn't have them.

There is no air trapping issue due to the circular nature of the bladder. Turn either butt up a bit or head up a bit and dump using the appropriate dump location.

Doesn't it interfere with a dive having to change out of horizontal trim to vent air and fine tune your bouyancy?

Could you roll a bit lifting the left side and vent without having to change from a horizontal postion or is the pitch change so subtle that you don't have to stop forward movement to perform this function and still maintain a constant depth?

 

[Genesis]

is quite subtle.

It doesn't interfere with trim significantly at all.

In general you want to dump out of the inflator. Simply raise it above your head, and it is the highest point and, with a very slight upward trim to your body, it will dump.

The only time I use the rear dump is when I'm on the surface; its easier to stick my butt up in that situation to dump for the initial decent in many cases.

 

[Boogie711]

I, too, dive a 45 Oxycheq, but I never dump via the inflator hose. Only on initial descent.

I always, always dump via the dump on the back of the wing. I just reach back, pinch the string, poof... out goes the air. I pulled that little knobby thing off before it even made it into the water.

 

[Genesis]

I find that its easier to dump using the inflator, but it certainly works both ways

 

[deepdiverbc]

Is it possible without taking a vertical position to get all of the air out of the wing?

My concern is that if I arrive at my 15 foot safety stop and haven't got all of the air out I will not be able to maintain my depth. Do you have to take a vertical postion prior to reaching 15 feet to ensure that you won't end up on the surface prematurely?

 

[Genesis]

Just raise the hose above your head and vent. A slight upward tilt will insure the air goes to the top of the wing, and since the inflator is the highest point, out it comes.

I've had no problem with this at all, and I dive that rig with 2lbs on my belt with a single HP steel and a 3 mil wetsuit. There is very, very little gas in the wing when my tank is empty at my 15' stop. (I weight for neutral at the surface, not at 15')

 

[deepdiverbc]

I weight for positive buoyancy to eye level at the surface which makes me 2-3 lbs negative at 15 feet due to suit compression in my 7 mil dry suit.

As long as I don't have more than 2-3 lbs of trapped air in my suit or BCD I am OK.

Do know what material the Oxycheq is made from. Is it the same as the Pioneer?