I have not called ole Joe yet but I can do that today or tomorrow. I also have Baby Dolls cell phone number and she can let us in. So, Who wants to go to Joe's this Sat.? or Laurel Lake? Let me know. Water Temp. should be a steamy 43 degrees. Viz will be good at Joe's. But you have to PAY $$$ to go to Joe's. I'm in for either or. I'll talk with Ernest today and see what he wants to do.