DeepSeaExplorer
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I kayak, and I'm and adventurous sort, but I wouldn't want to attempt to paddle upstream in an kayak loaded down with doubles.
Diving privately owned springs from river
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Ah, I guess I forgot about doubles.DeepSeaExplorer:
Would you settle for the local university's rowing team. I hear they could use a few more practice sessions.
SuPrBuGmAn
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JahJahwarrior:
Don't know any specific rules, but I've done it several times in the rivers/creeks of florida as well as in the Gulf in FL and AL.
Zephrant
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Years ago when I dove in the area of Clearwater Beach I was instructed to not touch the bottom for any reason. The DM claimed that the FL laws gave the land owners rights to the land, but not to the water. We swam past some steel posts in the stream that marked the private property line, and in to the small spring.
No flag though now that I think about it...
Up here in Washington state my understanding is that all water is public to the high water mark. My parents "own" land under a lake, but only if the lake dried out again (as it was before Grand Coulee went in).
No flag though now that I think about it...
Up here in Washington state my understanding is that all water is public to the high water mark. My parents "own" land under a lake, but only if the lake dried out again (as it was before Grand Coulee went in).
Just some interesting reading.
http://www.floridabar.org/tfb/TFBCo...184a9fa72331ef1985256b2f006c5f6d?OpenDocument
http://www.miami-criminal-lawyer.net/html/trespass.html
Gary D.
http://www.floridabar.org/tfb/TFBCo...184a9fa72331ef1985256b2f006c5f6d?OpenDocument
http://www.miami-criminal-lawyer.net/html/trespass.html
Gary D.
JahJahwarrior:So, I'm wondering about the legality of this. Basically, is it legal for me to dive in a spring where if you go there by land you have to pay $30 to dive in, but that connects to the river....If i got in from the river by boat, and dive there, is that legal, if I don't pay?
By the way, I am in Florida. I'm sure the law is different many places.
If you can provide links to webpages that give the actual law, that would be more helpful to me than "yeah it's fine I do it all the time." I'm wondering mainly because some people tell me it's fine and that they do it all the time.
I know one spring here has a sign at the river that says you have to pay if you come in by the river.
The real reason I ask is because I have access to a boat, and it's cheaper to put the boat in and motor to the site than to pay $30 to dive there
Check FL Law. In GA, if you own Both side of a water way then you own the land below the water and can therefore "Post" it. You are also diving into a Licensed commercial area and therfore commiting Criminal Trespass.
Check your Laws before doing this. NEVER trust "SCUBABoard" law, it will never keep you out of Fines or even Jail. But hey, nothing is illegal until you get caught. But if you get away with it once, never think you can always do it.
scubafool
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One thing to keep in mind. If you do dive Ginnie from the river, it is very likely that Ginnie will decide not to allow you on their property in the future. And we would miss you at our get togethers there.
Well, I might. Jean probably wouldn't mind too much.
Well, I might. Jean probably wouldn't mind too much.
OP
I'll just rent a houseboat or something. It'd probably be cheaper than the $27 to dive and $20 (right?) to camp, especially when I put a sleeping bag on a picnic table. I didn't even "camp," I hardly slept! And I paid good money for the privelidge!
As for it being "criminal trespass," that's what I am wondering about. Regardless of wehther it is a "licenses commercial institute" or whatnot, water is water, right? If Ginnie wants to claim that they own the water, then they pretty much own the entire river, because the water doesn't stay in one place.
I respect their right to charge an entry fee to use their facilities, as I am one of the most staunch supporters of capitalism that you will ever meet. However, I also really enjoy finding ways to provide competition. Currently, for farl ess than $30 in gas I can drive a little further to other springs, with the only disadvantages being I cannot bring in alcohol (not an issue, as I am 18. Besides, if the beer here is anything like the beer in some South American countries I have visited, it's not something I care to bring on a dive. Maybe a small glass, but not much. And, first drink means last dive ), cannot camp, and they don't have "the ballroom." Oh well, being a capitalist I am perfectly willin gto dive in whatever as long as it's interesting, if it's cheaper
I like to "stick it to the man." It will be my strongest asset later in life, and will make me look like the biggest *** for it. Double edged sword, sticking it to the man can be.
As for it being "criminal trespass," that's what I am wondering about. Regardless of wehther it is a "licenses commercial institute" or whatnot, water is water, right?
If Ginnie wants to claim that they own the water, then they pretty much own the entire river, because the water doesn't stay in one place. I respect their right to charge an entry fee to use their facilities, as I am one of the most staunch supporters of capitalism that you will ever meet. However, I also really enjoy finding ways to provide competition. Currently, for farl ess than $30 in gas I can drive a little further to other springs, with the only disadvantages being I cannot bring in alcohol (not an issue, as I am 18. Besides, if the beer here is anything like the beer in some South American countries I have visited, it's not something I care to bring on a dive. Maybe a small glass, but not much. And, first drink means last dive
), cannot camp, and they don't have "the ballroom." Oh well, being a capitalist I am perfectly willin gto dive in whatever as long as it's interesting, if it's cheaper I like to "stick it to the man." It will be my strongest asset later in life, and will make me look like the biggest *** for it. Double edged sword, sticking it to the man can be.
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