I did voluntarily remove my speculations (aka theories), of which there were a couple, my intent was not to lay blame but some theories could have come across as such so I erred on side of caution, but I was surprised to see my post further edited to remove information that I had confirmed to have been provided to me by other witnesses about actual events.
Diver Death in Waterton National Park, Alberta on August 24, 2013
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I did voluntarily remove my speculations (aka theories), of which there were a couple, my intent was not to lay blame but some theories could have come across as such so I erred on side of caution, but I was surprised to see my post further edited to remove information that I had confirmed to have been provided to me by other witnesses about actual events.
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Why is there so little additional information about this? I realize that the incident is being investigated, but not even a name?
I'm not so closely acquainted with the local community that I can just call people to ask [and probably shouldn't anyway] but it all seems terribly hush-hush.
I'm not so closely acquainted with the local community that I can just call people to ask [and probably shouldn't anyway] but it all seems terribly hush-hush.
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Pending verification of notification to relatives of the deceased from an official source, we won't do that.
Think about it - how would you feel if you read about the death of a family member/close personal friend while browsing posts here?
I know of one instance with a relative of a diver where it did a few years back.
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Inasmuch as it has been five days since the incident, and there's an obit in the local paper today, I find this unpersuasive.
I did have a chat with a friend who's a longtime member of the local scene. Although he was unable to tell me anything about this particular incident, he was able to explain a bit about how news about scuba accidents is kept deliberately obscure, for reasons that appear to have far more to do with possible liability avoidance [ie. butt covering] than with whatever teaching value open and honest communication and information flow would provide [not to mention consumer awareness when dealing with LDS training]. I also learned that despite my relative lack of inexperience in the scuba world, my somewhat educated guesses are about as good as anybody's.
In general, I have to say that I'm not impressed.
What's there to talk about? It's been five days. The people closest to this wouldn't know the whole story of what happened yet. It's been five days. And they are still coming to terms with what's happened. Why do we need to talk about the deceased? It's not our place. The family will be grieving for a long time. It's been five days.
The silence to allow people to heal is being misconstrued as obscurity. Given a person's lack of understanding of this process chances are the same people will never notice changes being made to any policies, procedures, equipment or training as that would come from the top down and in such a way that no one will even know why it's made. Changes that make positive impacts to people's lives don't come from armchair policy makers and chin waggers. Let the right people make the assessment and analysis of this situation.
So what's there to talk about? Did I say it's been five days?
Oh, and I am impressed.
The silence to allow people to heal is being misconstrued as obscurity. Given a person's lack of understanding of this process chances are the same people will never notice changes being made to any policies, procedures, equipment or training as that would come from the top down and in such a way that no one will even know why it's made. Changes that make positive impacts to people's lives don't come from armchair policy makers and chin waggers. Let the right people make the assessment and analysis of this situation.
So what's there to talk about? Did I say it's been five days?
Oh, and I am impressed.
CathyE
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I'm sorry if you feel that the inquires/comments here are out of place. But this is not a healing forum for people affected by tragedy.
It's a place where we discuss what happened and what could have been done differently. The goal being preventing this from occurring again and again.
The thread is titled clearly and people can avoid reading it if it is troubling for them.
I never said it was a healing forum. Just another fine example of how thing get twisted around. Thanks for the quick demo on that.
lv2dive
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Please take the following with all respect, for i truly mean it that way. Anyone who needs"time to heal" - be it five days or five years - Is well-advised to steer clear of this thread. The purpose of this forum is laid out in detail but the net net is, some of us look at accidents and incidents and try to learn from them. In the absence of facts, we may speculate (and be clear that is what we are doing), in the interest of learning. Please understand there is no malicious intent involved. But it is no place for friends and family who aren't clear on exactly what this forum is about.
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