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GREEK, I am sorry to hear about the experience you had. The good news is that it will get better from here on, so keep diving.

Currents can be tough. In fact, I just finished a day of diving in some moderate current.

Where was your buddy?
 
As a dive guide, Where was your dive buddy & SMB ??? Putting yourself into a panic situation on the surface indicates your lack experience and/or following your dive training. Remember you are responsibile for yourself & your buddy. Very seldom to drift dives go 'exactly' as planned especially with strong current and numerous divers. Review the dive,the situations and determine what to do different next time. Be prepared & let this be a positive learning experience.

"living life without a hard bottom"
KT
 
Once we got on the boat, the dive master explained that there was a strong current, but that we would be doing a drift dive over the wreck site. I was assigned to a group with a buddy, per normal, and was excited to start. ... The current was so strong that it kept carrying me and eventually the divers were out of sight. So, I did what I was trained to do, I surfaced and signalled for the boat. It took the boat almost 20 minutes to see me and honestly, I was scared that they never would.
Good for you. You made a decision to take care of yourself, followed your training, and safely completed the dive. I am curious - when you were on the bottom, trying to crawl back to the wreck site, were you fully negative (all the air was out of your BCD), or not? That makes a big difference. You really can't kick against a strong current. But, if you hunker down as close to the bottom as possible, and get fully negative, you can usually pull yourself along against the current. But, if you are only slightly negative, or neutral, chances are you won't be able to.
Greek:
I can tell you that being on the surface for 20 minutes waving frantically for the boat was probably the scariest 20 minutes of my life.
I can imagine. Many of us have been in that situation at one time or another, and it can be a bit unnerving for a newer diver, until you come to understand how drift dives work. You go in, you drift along, you (and your buddy) surface when you reach an agreed upon point / time / air pressure. The boat follows bubbles and picks up divers as they surface. By the way, did you have any surface signaling device - a 'safety sauage', or a whistle, or a mirror - with you? If not, you should. I don't usually go in to open ocean conditions without one, even if I can see the shore from the site. You really aren't all that visible in the water from a distance if you are floating at the surface. It may be very easy for you to see the boat, but not as easy for them to see you.
Greek:
PADI dive masters are supposed to be constantly checking out for their group, and the fact that I was left alone without the dive master surfacing to find me was extremely unprofessional and dangerous, given the conditions of that day.
Hmm. I don't necessarily agree with that. Whether it is a PADI shop, a NAUI shop, or any other, there is not necessarily an inherent responsibility to be 'constantly checking out for their group' in the water, IF their assignment is primarily to point out interesting features.
Greek:
Once back onboard, . . . when I tried to confront them, they blamed me for this.
Now, you didn't do anything wrong. But, they didn't either. (I wonder if they really 'blamed' you, or merely pointed out that it was your responsibility to stay with the group.) You are a newer diver, and this is good leanrning for you. What you experienced is not uncommon in drift diving. It was not clear from your post if whether any statement was made before splashing about the group staying together at the wreck site, and then surfacing together - I suspect there wasn't, which is also common for drift dives. For a new diver, I can imagine that it was scary to be on the surface, alone, down current from the boat, wondering if they see you, or if they are every going to pick you up. But, with experience you will become comfortable. Like several other posters, I have to wonder where you dive buddy was. If there was a failure along the way, I would assign that responsibility more to your insta-buddy than to the DM.
Greek:
In this situation, am I wrong to be upset with AquaWorld? They refuse to refund me my money and are being very difficult with me.
Yes, you are (wrong). Unless there was a specific commitment for the DM to look out for you once in the water, they really are not being unreasonable at all. In fact, offering you a free dive in the future is actually a very good gesture on their part.
They did offer me a free dive in the future, but I'm not about to put my life in their incapable hands again.
It is your choice, but I think you are missing an opportunity. When you dive, you put your life in your OWN hands (which may be 'capable' or 'incapable' according to the individual diver). Otherwise, it is simply a 'trust me' dive, and there are lots of SB threads about why those are a really bad idea. They are offering you a free dive. It is a chance to see the wreck you (apparently) missed, to smooth out the relationship with the operation, to learn some things about drift diving, and boat diving, to make certain BEFORE you jump in the water, what the procedures will be.
 
Thanks for your opinions guys, they do help. I will definitely learn from this and never let it happen again. I can tell you that being on the surface for 20 minutes waving frantically for the boat was probably the scariest 20 minutes of my life.

They did offer me a free dive in the future, but I'm not about to put my life in their incapable hands again.

Those hands.... would be yours.
 
The safety issue lies with your designated buddy. He was the person who had a responsibility to monitor you. Such is the way with resort insta-buddies. Never take anything for granted when diving with an unknown. It's your responsibility to sit and plan the dive with that buddy...and your responsibility to communicate and agree with them what you expect to happen in continency situations.

Just out of interest.... did YOU sit and discuss your 'lost buddy procedures' with your buddy prior to that dive?

The divemaster, in the role of dive guide, is merely there to provide general supervision and escort the group around the dive site, assisting with planning and navigation on the dive, whilst pointing out interesting creatures etc. He isn't your buddy (unless specifically designated as such).

The divemaster did screw up, because he missed the site and that caused the group to have to return (against the current) to the wreck. It's a navigational error and it happens to anyone. I think that such a thing is worth an apology, but it isn't really a safety issue. Only a very generous dive centre would offer a refund for that situation, although they cdid act fairly IMHO by smoothing things over with the offer of a free future dive.

Whilst this dive was certainly not relaxing or pleasurable for you, it is worth bearing in mind that these 'negative' scuba experiences tend to be the ones that we gain the most knowledge and learning from. It has caused you to think and analyse the dive, your own performance and the performance of those divers around you.

In that respect, it can be seen as a beneficial learning experience. After all, if every dive when perfectly, then how would we ever develop our experience as scuba divers. As you gain more experience and log more dives in the future, you will realize that aborting a dive is not that rare an occurance (at least, it shouldn't be). Things go wrong sometimes... it could be navigation, it could be an equipment problem, sickness, a nervous buddy...etc etc etc. That's just a part of diving.
 
...when you were on the bottom, trying to crawl back to the wreck site, were you fully negative (all the air was out of your BCD), or not? That makes a big difference. You really can't kick against a strong current. But, if you hunker down as close to the bottom as possible, and get fully negative, you can usually pull yourself along against the current. But, if you are only slightly negative, or neutral, chances are you won't be able to.

It's all about trim... or as they say in aviation 'the angle of attack'.

Water flows into the body and causes resistance. Like a plane's wing... if the diver is head up/feet down, the water flow hits the front of their body and drives them upwards.

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If they achieve a slightly head down/feet up trim, then the water flow will slide along the back of their torso and drive them downwards.

Of course, also the greater the 'angle of attack' (vertical head-up trim) of the diver, the greater the area of body exposed to water resistance from the current...and the greater the drag pushing back on the diver.

You can (should) retain neutral bouyancy, but you can be pro-active in staying close to the bottom (water resistance and turbulence along the bottom decreases current flow) and utilise effective modified trim control to prevent being 'scooped' up and away by the current...
 
Last time I went Drift diving. and I wanted to move against the current (was very strong current we did 2kms in 30mins) I just swim at an angle. It work for me this time. who knows if it would work again.. lol just my .02 cents
Kurt in Cebu
 
In response to AquaWorld being a cattle boat operation, when I dove with them in Cancun and Cozumel in April 2010, I never felt rushed at all. I don't remember there ever being more than 15 divers on a boat at a time. There was one day the boat picked us up at Cozumel Palace and there were maybe 25 people on the boat but we dropped of 20 of them as snorkelers on another boat at their dock.

This may be different during different times of the year but it wasn't when I was there. I also understand that I am responsible for my own dive plan and safety. If I ever feel unsure about a dive, I'd let a DM know and request extra attention during the dive. If I tell a DM that I may need help and then he doesn't help me, then that is cause for concern.
 
Some good info here.

One thing I'd like for you to remember, whenever you're doing a boat dive always take along an SMB.

Yellow Angel Fish and I always have one each. There is an occasional derisive look from one or two of the dive boat staff, but it's not their butts that are getting off the boat, and wanting to get back on it.

Things happen when you least expect it.

the K
 
SMBs / Safety Sausages are mandatory on most boat dives that I do in some countries.

Some countries take "safety" more seriously than others

Keep a Mars Bar in your BC pocket for the next time you are floating around for 20 mins :D
 
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