Ron:
Slow down dude. When I first read your post I thought one of us had seriously misinterpreted what this post was all about. After going back and rereading all of the posts I realized, it was you. I dont see any mention of training dives here, except for yours. People were just talking about towing a dive flag or float around on a pleasure dive. Of course I anchor an ascent/decent line to something during a training dive. It would be a little tough to use it if it werent. And Im fully aware of the PADI standards and what Im required to do during a training dive. So hang up the Bat Phone to the PADI Training Standards Office would ya.
SCUBA 446:
Yes, youre right again, youre good at this. No agency is going to tell you to do something like that because inevitably some moron would use a morning line to tie a dive flag around their neck, get hurt and sue. Dive classes are structured to teach people that know little or nothing about diving how to do it safely. Common sense and good judgment go along way toward making something safe but some people just dont have a lot of common sense and good judgment so you have to teach the class to the lowest common denominator so someone wont try it and hurt himself or herself, or someone else. Take a look at the thread You started, the one on Solo diving. I could be wrong but I dont know of any training agency that advocates solo diving. Yet 47% of the people that responded, including myself, said they had dived solo. Does that make it wrong? Not necessarily! IMHO If a person has a high level of training and experience, is comfortable in the water, has good, well maintained, equipment with good redundancy and is comfortable with doing so there is no reason that they cant. Yet no Instructor or training agency would ever tell that to new students because someone would get hurt. The same thing can be said for deep diving and breathing Nitrox. Not to many years ago no agency would endorse the use of Nitrox for recreational diving because it was thought to be too difficult for the average diver to use, and diving beyond 130 feet was a mortal sin in recreational diving. But people were mixing their own Nitrox, something thats not very difficult to do, and diving it recreationally as well as planning and diving beyond 130 feet and living to talk about. Now nearly every training agency is touting the advantages of Nitrox and the 2 agencies you speak of are both offering classes in deep, staged decompression diving.
The point is, just because someone is doing something that the agencies say not to do doesnt necessarily make it wrong. Take the DIR gear configuration for instance. According to GUE (Global Underwater Explorers) if youre not diving with your gear configured the way they say you should, its wrong. Does that make your gear configuration wrong? No, just different. If you use common sense, good judgment and have the experience and education, and by education I dont necessarily mean formal education, to back it up not everything the agencies say is forbidden is wrong.
Live, learn and dive smart.
Slow down dude. When I first read your post I thought one of us had seriously misinterpreted what this post was all about. After going back and rereading all of the posts I realized, it was you. I dont see any mention of training dives here, except for yours. People were just talking about towing a dive flag or float around on a pleasure dive. Of course I anchor an ascent/decent line to something during a training dive. It would be a little tough to use it if it werent. And Im fully aware of the PADI standards and what Im required to do during a training dive. So hang up the Bat Phone to the PADI Training Standards Office would ya.
SCUBA 446:
Yes, youre right again, youre good at this. No agency is going to tell you to do something like that because inevitably some moron would use a morning line to tie a dive flag around their neck, get hurt and sue. Dive classes are structured to teach people that know little or nothing about diving how to do it safely. Common sense and good judgment go along way toward making something safe but some people just dont have a lot of common sense and good judgment so you have to teach the class to the lowest common denominator so someone wont try it and hurt himself or herself, or someone else. Take a look at the thread You started, the one on Solo diving. I could be wrong but I dont know of any training agency that advocates solo diving. Yet 47% of the people that responded, including myself, said they had dived solo. Does that make it wrong? Not necessarily! IMHO If a person has a high level of training and experience, is comfortable in the water, has good, well maintained, equipment with good redundancy and is comfortable with doing so there is no reason that they cant. Yet no Instructor or training agency would ever tell that to new students because someone would get hurt. The same thing can be said for deep diving and breathing Nitrox. Not to many years ago no agency would endorse the use of Nitrox for recreational diving because it was thought to be too difficult for the average diver to use, and diving beyond 130 feet was a mortal sin in recreational diving. But people were mixing their own Nitrox, something thats not very difficult to do, and diving it recreationally as well as planning and diving beyond 130 feet and living to talk about. Now nearly every training agency is touting the advantages of Nitrox and the 2 agencies you speak of are both offering classes in deep, staged decompression diving.
The point is, just because someone is doing something that the agencies say not to do doesnt necessarily make it wrong. Take the DIR gear configuration for instance. According to GUE (Global Underwater Explorers) if youre not diving with your gear configured the way they say you should, its wrong. Does that make your gear configuration wrong? No, just different. If you use common sense, good judgment and have the experience and education, and by education I dont necessarily mean formal education, to back it up not everything the agencies say is forbidden is wrong.
Live, learn and dive smart.
