Creation vs. Evolution

[H2Andy]

I have no idea what you’re talking about

he's sort of lumping several hoaxes from the late 18th and early 19th century when ancient "remains" were passed off as early hominid species.

what they don't tell you is that every single one (every single one) of those hoaxes was exposed by ...

you got it, scientists

more specifically, i think he means Nebraska Man?

 

[Thalassamania]

he's sort of lumping several hoaxes from the late 18th and early 19th century when ancient "remains" were passed off as early hominid species.

what they don't tell you is that every single one (every single one) of those hoaxes was exposed by ...

you got it, scientists

Heaven's to murgatroid! No ... not scientists!

 

[Rapida]

This site has some pretty good info on the creationism vs evolution debate.
Here is an article covering the orignal lucy

...Now I'm going back to lurking.

 

[Thalassamania]

This site has some pretty good info on the creationism vs evolution debate.

This site is claptrap containing items such as: "Evolutionists need to know: we will not go quietly into the night. And when the dust settles, it will not be evolution that is “triumphant,” but truth—the truth of creationism."

Here is an article covering the orignal lucy

This article, from the site cited above, is the the worst sort of bungled half-truth combined with a snide personal attack on Don Johanson, someone whom I know well enough to see the lies and inuendo in the piece for what they are. One of the article's problems with the Lucy fossil is that it is too chimp like and not human enough. Chimps and human share 98% of their DNA, so what could they possibly be talking about? The author, one Brad Harrub claims to hold an earned B.S. degree in biology from Kentucky Wesleyan College, and an earned Ph.D. in neurobiology and anatomy from the College of Medicine at the University of Tennessee in Memphis. Which sounds like he sould know something about osteology and such, until you realize the the degree is from the Department of Anatomy and Neurobiology at the University of Tennessee Health Sciences Center (a relic name for a department that has little or nothing to do with anatomy anymore). It describes itself as "home to 30 active neuroscientists with primary appointments and another 20 with secondary appointments, all participating in the campus-wide Neuroscience Institute, which includes over 80 neuroscience faculty. These investigators focus on research on neurological and neurodegenerative disorders, motor control, excitable properties of neurons and synaptic function, sensory information processing, brain tumor biology, vision and retina, neurogenetics and neural development, and intracellular signaling in neurons. UTHSC is one of the world’s leading centers exploiting novel genomic approaches to explore brain development, CNS function and behavior, and psychiatric and neurodegenerative diseases." A first class institution, one that is very high on the NIH funding list, but I doubt that it's gradutes have much more in the way of anthropology or paleontology training than most undergrads do. His a man entitled to an opinion, but nothing more.



...Now I'm going back to lurking.[/quote]

 

[adurso]

Thas, Andy and company glad to see you are fighting the good fight still. I had a student look me in the eye the other day and inform me that I was damned, (can I say that?) for attempting to enlighten the masses, as G_d had turned hours into minutes and there are no fossils that show transitions and if there are they are fake....

 

[Thalassamania]

Recedite, insipientis! Scientia non habet inimicum nisp ignorantem.

Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

 

[Debay777]

someone please show me a series of fossils that CLEARLY show "evolution", By evolution, I mean where a fish got ticked off cause its food kept going to ground so it finally slipped of ye old fins, attached its new legs and went for a walk. I have never in any book, any online debate, or anywhere seen the linking fossil records showing the full record of one animal or life form changing into another. No one can point me to them. Like I said a fish is a fish and will allways be a fish. someone told me to wait, give it time and somewhere one will change. youve had your billions of years, millions of animals, millions of species, and millions of recorded fossils. where are they? Just because rocks and minerals from the earth measure to be millions of years old, doesnt make the earth that old. I can use 200 year old wood and make a new house out of it and that doesnt make the house 200 years old. as for carbon dating, I have ALWAYS heard carbon dating and terms like millions of years old. Maybe they have reined it in and gone conservative, but I have read it and heard it.

this thread is pretty much useless. i almost didnt post and now i remember why. This post will surely go on for hundreds of new posts and never get anywhere. THE END

 

[MikeFerrara]

You seem to have mistaken which point of this "argument" I'm on. But when you look at those religous groups who use the bible as a grounds to deny rights to homosexuals - you know, those groups who have the 50% devorce rate but want to keep gays from marrying cause it'll damange the "sanctity" of marrage - they use this exact section of the bible as the rational for their beliefs.

Maybe we need to define "rights"? As far as I know, homosexuals have the exact same rights in this country as everyone else.

I don't believe that we can legislate morality but everytime the issue of same sex marriage comes up for a vote it looses. I'll bet that most of the people doing the voting haven't ever even read the Bible. People just don't want it.

Homosexuality is a sin, gays are all ging to hell, etc, we've all heard it 1,000,000 times, and it all stems from the section of the bible I quoted.

I'm not sure exactly where you heard that but as a Biblical matter there's more to it. God made Eve for Adam. He didn't make Steve for Adam. The Bible is consistant on the subject from begining to end.

Personally, there are many things that I believe to be sinful that I don't wish to see made illegal. Given the chance to vote, I'll vote against same sex marriage. Not just because I believe it's a sin but because I think that it's a completely wacky idea.

 

[Potapko]

To reiterate in case you missed it earlier:

“The Old Testament was written by my people, the Jewish people. But that book wasn’t good enough for you Christians. You guys said, ‘We got a better book and a great new character. You’re going to love it.’ And yet you are constantly interpreting our book. It’s not your book! A lot of the problems we have in the country is that you Christians interpret the Old Testament. You don’t see rabbis going on TV interpreting the New Testament.” -- Lewis Black

This is funny since with limited exception the New Testament was written by Jews. His people. They just explained the parts of the Ot the Jewish people to that point hadn't understood. well, actually, they still don't.

 

[H2Andy]

By evolution, I mean where a fish got ticked off cause its food kept going to ground so it finally slipped of ye old fins, attached its new legs and went for a walk.

hahahahaha!

oh man, that's the best joke i've heard on this thread...

good one

(he's not joking)

what?

(he's serious)

oh.... er... nevermind....