Coronary artery disease and diving

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pepperbelly

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Tell me if what I suspect is true.
I recently found my RCA is 100% blocked. It has created bypass vessels that are smaller.
My LAD is clear.
My left vertebral carotid shows no flow.
I have no symptoms, no pain or weakness.
When I ride my bicycle around a local lake-a 6 mile loop I have no issues but longer rides are tiring.
I am 67.
Is scuba over for me?
 
Sounds like it.

You might be ar risk for having a sudden stroke or a third degree heart block. But a medical professional would need more info like your weight, past history, meds you are taking and stress test results.

What does your doctor say? It may not be best to decide based on medical advice of people you don't know here.
 
Why not already stented?
If the RCA is 100% blocked with sufficient collateral arterial growth, why stent it? Oftentimes if old enough, they simply cannot stent it. I’m more interested in the carotid block and potential impact.
 
I just got the results. My dr hasn’t contacted me yet to talk about this.
After reading about all of the older divers that die due to a medical condition I don’t want to become a news article.
I didn’t post this for medical advice. I want advice from experienced divers who may have experience.
The carotid worries me most.
 
After your doctor talks to you about your risk of death and the risk of drowning if something occurs at 60 feet deep that would otherwise be survivable on the surface, don't forget to consider:

1 The effect on your relatives and friends if you die on a dive.
2 How your dive buddy that was with you will feel if you die on a dive.
 
The short answer is it depends.

The longer answer is… it depends.

The following is for educational purposes only. It is not meant to diagnose or treat any of your conditions. Please seek the advice of your own clinician.

For a great period of time simple plumbing mindset was applied to coronary circulation. It was felt that clearing the blockages would always result in better health for the patient.

Several years ago, a sham controlled randomized trial proved that stable coronary artery disease showed no improvement via stenting versus medical treatment.

Additionally, there’s been research that is shown that clearing a coronary artery obstruction when the body has already established collateral circulation also did not offer any significant improvement in outcomes.

Due to the CAD a patient will always be at some degree of risk. However, CAD is a fairly common diagnosis that I have no doubt hundreds, if not thousands, of people dive with daily. Some have already survived their first heart attack.

The existence of CAD does place a patient at higher risk than someone without, but that risk is all relative.

“After adjustment, 1-year MI rates increased with increasing CAD extent. Relative to patients with no apparent CAD, patients with 1-vessel nonobstructive CAD had a hazard ratio (HR) for 1-year MI of 2.0 (95% CI, 0.8–5.1); 2-vessel nonobstructive HR, 4.6 (95% CI, 2.0–10.5); 3-vessel nonobstructive HR, 4.5 (95% CI, 1.6–12.5); 1-vessel obstructive HR, 9.0 (95% CI, 4.2–19.0); 2-vessel obstructive HR, 16.5 (95% CI, 8.1–33.7); and 3-vessel or LM obstructive HR, 19.5 (95% CI, 9.9–38.2). One-year mortality rates were associated with increasing CAD extent, ranging from 1.38% among patients without apparent CAD to 4.30% with 3-vessel or LM obstructive CAD. After risk adjustment, there was no significant association between 1- or 2-vessel nonobstructive CAD and mortality, but there were significant associations with mortality for 3-vessel nonobstructive CAD (HR, 1.6; 95% CI, 1.1–2.5), 1-vessel obstructive CAD (HR, 1.9; 95% CI, 1.4–2.6), 2-vessel obstructive CAD (HR, 2.8; 95% CI, 2.1–3.7), and 3-vessel or LM obstructive CAD (HR, 3.4; 95% CI, 2.6–4.4). Similar associations were noted with the combined outcome.”



So yes the risk is increased, but the baseline risk for any one person of having a heart attack over the course of a year is pretty damn low to begin with.

It’s also worth noting that study is about a decade old.

It’s also worth asking what harms will come from stopping diving. Depression, substance abuse, lack of exercise, isolation may all be far more risk than the baseline risk of ACS and the slight increase in that associated with diving. Doubly so when someone is fairly active with the CAD as a backdrop.

If a patient is comfortable with that risk, demonstrates they are able to be physically active without issues, are managed medically to the maximum tolerated/recommended, do not see why stable CAD alone should preclude someone from diving.
 
My cardiologist will have me do another stress test before deciding if he needs to go back in and clear the obstruction or if the collateral vessels are supplying enough blood. I have been riding my bicycle around a local lake. It’s a 6 mile loop with some small climbs and so far one lap has me tired. The bigger climbs are at the end each way. This may just be a lack of conditioning.
Right now I’m not riding because of the left vertebral carotid showing no flow on the doppler study. Right now that has me more worried than my heart. That will require more tests.
I will just wait and see what the dr has to say. It seems like it doesn’t automatically disqualify me from diving.
 

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